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I'm playing a kult of speed ork army. I kinda want everything to start out in vehicles, it is reminiscent of the speed freeks from Armageddon.

I want to take some Lootas but I need some advice on how to use them, given that they need to start in a vehicle, either a trukk or a battlewagon.

Does anybody have any advice?

They have a 48" range. If you really feel the need to make them mobile then stick them in something that will stay back and also have long ranged weapons so it can hopefully pay for it's cost.

Or put them in a trukk and use it purely to zoom them into a good location with plenty of cover, where they'll hopefully spend the rest of the game happily shooting. (The trukk can then wander around spoiling your opponent's LoS and providing a little mobile terrain cover.) But that assumes there will be such a suitable spot on the table, which obviously depends on how terrain is done in your local games.

Certainly, leaving them in a trukk for long isn't a great idea.

Hmm, you could also consider a Looted Wagon, but most players would prefer a BW, given both take up a Heavy slot and the BW is much sturdier.

You can give them a dedicated truck but start them on board as if they've allready disembarked. The truck will be useful elsewhere. To roll around grabbing objectives, providing cover or ramming the opponent. Can even go for a wrekking ball if you feel crazy enough. An empty truck with ram and wrecking ball can be oddly effective as a distraction. Remember that a truck is fast and thus can move 12 and use d3 bs2 s9 ap4 shots and a snapfire rokkit or a bs2 rokkit and snapfire wrecking ball. Not that bad. And extra cool points for you if you actually wreck something or ground a FMC with it

Just imagine a flyrant going above the battlefield. Aha, i'm cheezy, i fly above, rain fire, psy powers left and right and nothing can get me, and...BAM! A wrecking ball to the face.

Either a trukk or BW?

So my take, if you wanted them in a vehicle (which I have considered but not actually ever tried yet), then personally i'd put them in a gunwagon or big trakk. They are from IA8, imo, they are much superior to a trukk and much cheaper than a wagon; at 60 pts for something AV13,12,10.

With a gunwagon, you can take it in a squadron, thus take 2, (same cost a BW), then load the front one with shoota boyz. I don't know whether you have shoota boyz in your list already, but here's a pretty useful place for them. The squadron causes the front tank to take hits, first, so in-effect you have a buffer tank filled with shoota boyz (you could even not put boyz in it if you wished). This will help deter your opponent from simply attempting to wreck their vehicle turn 1, as they will have to chew another tank first. Plus, vehicles in a squadron can move at separate speeds, so you can actually keep the lootas one still, allowing them to fire at full BS, while the other vehicle moves forward. Then on turn 2 if you decide you no longer need the full BS, move both wagons forward, claim a couple midboard objectives and then sit there and fire.

The other option which I really want to try is; lootas in the warkoptas. They are fast, skimmers and can be squadrons. So think trukks which ignore cover and can get right across the board turn 1. Load the front with shoota boyz as before, the second with lootas, rush round a flank and watch your opponent cry as turn 2 your lootas are getting side armour all day baby. Not to mention the warkoptas themselves have deffguns, so can also spit out TL str 7 shots.

However, you did state that you wanted a trukk or BW. Personally, if you wanted a BW, i'd say forget it, grab another loota squad. as for a trukk? well you would literally be using 35 pts for not a lot. As a trukk with lootas i'd hide turn 1, move out (so they are now snapfiring) and then go to work. But this seems wasteful considering you could put them in a building that's elevated and provide them a far superior firing platform.

Alternate take:
BW - max loota squad, BM with KMB and MegaArmour. So he gives the unit SnP, meaning they always fire at full BS. He can also tank wounds from templates and vehicle damage. Move forward, peppering the enemy with fire, then when they get wrecked you now have a unit most likely unharmed footslogging while unloading huge amounts of Str7. This could be a really good way of doing it But you do have to pay a 100pt tax for the BM in MA and his other bits.

I've used 3 x 15 Lootas in BW's on a Landing Pad a lot in 6th. Insane amount of FP. My biggest issue with Lootas is a lot of the time, not everyone can see the same target. Open-topped Vehicles can fix that problem well. Plus theyre fearless inside vehicles, immune to psychic powers. Assuming everything else you have is rushing forward, most people will leave your Lootas alone. It was better when they were fearless at 11 models or more. Also, since exploding vehicle hits were counted as "shooting" attacks, they still got the 4++ save from LP. Don't know if that's still the cAse in 7th?

hmm some interesting points Pipe,
Id be keen to know whether something similar could done this ed. An Ork skyshield pad with plenty of bigtrakks. I mean 50pts, load it with 4x BS and a squad of 12 lootas. That thing is gona pour shoots out like nobodies business. Like you said, OT vehicle means you can take LoS from any point on the vehicle, plus the skyshield height is going to give you some extra height too.

Plus you could convert the skyshield to look like an orky fort!

 ArmageddonBorn wrote:
I'm playing a kult of speed ork army. I kinda want everything to start out in vehicles, it is reminiscent of the speed freeks from Armageddon.

I want to take some Lootas but I need some advice on how to use them, given that they need to start in a vehicle, either a trukk or a battlewagon.

Does anybody have any advice?

My only suggestion is to consider putting a big mek in the unit with either mega-armor or supa-cybork. This way you can move and still fire at BS5. I know it doesn't make a whole lot of difference but in a game of dice, even 1 dye can decide a game. Personally, I use a mega armor, gitfinda, da dead shiny shoota. The only downside is the lootas can't overwatch out of the battle wagon becaue of the mega armor, but thats where the supa-cybork comes in as an option as it allows you to overwatch.

Solar Shock wrote:
hmm some interesting points Pipe,
Id be keen to know whether something similar could done this ed. An Ork skyshield pad with plenty of bigtrakks. I mean 50pts, load it with 4x BS and a squad of 12 lootas. That thing is gona pour shoots out like nobodies business. Like you said, OT vehicle means you can take LoS from any point on the vehicle, plus the skyshield height is going to give you some extra height too.

Plus you could convert the skyshield to look like an orky fort!

It can easilly work.

The only problem is that s7 ap4 shots are not longer so frightening. But they do have their uses.

I'd get one mek per squad just in case someone explodes your vehicles so that lootas don't run away. Besides, they can even attempt to fix a transport.

What other transport platforms do forgeworld ork vehicles have? Maybe something with bigger guns too?

 koooaei wrote:
You can give them a dedicated truck but start them on board as if they've allready disembarked. The truck will be useful elsewhere. To roll around grabbing objectives, providing cover or ramming the opponent. Can even go for a wrekking ball if you feel crazy enough. An empty truck with ram and wrecking ball can be oddly effective as a distraction. Remember that a truck is fast and thus can move 12 and use d3 bs2 s9 ap4 shots and a snapfire rokkit or a bs2 rokkit and snapfire wrecking ball. Not that bad. And extra cool points for you if you actually wreck something or ground a FMC with it

Just imagine a flyrant going above the battlefield. Aha, i'm cheezy, i fly above, rain fire, psy powers left and right and nothing can get me, and...BAM! A wrecking ball to the face.

Quality advice as always, exalted. In another thread, the qualities of a trukk in terms of mobile LOS was discussed, really if you are digging to get a win it's nice to have 35 points for your opponent to shoot before it's your Lootas.

BTW, if you're in for big trakks full of lootas. consider taking Big Lobbas. I think that a battery of 3 s6 ap4 large blast barrages for humble points can be worth it.

Loot as In a battle wagon with a big Mel in mega armor and the relic kustom force field that gives the vehicle a 4++. Move them around and shoot at BS 5 or just keep them somewhere safe.

It's kinda a waste of a big men but you never know.

 koooaei wrote:
BTW, if you're in for big trakks full of lootas. consider taking Big Lobbas. I think that a battery of 3 s6 ap4 large blast barrages for humble points can be worth it.

Yeh I've been thinking this. Plus it still has barrage I believe. Honestly the weapon options on the bigtrakks and gunwagons can be so useful. The current Ork codex has pretty poor vehicle mounted weapons imo (bar BS and rokkits), but the IA8 stuff can really add some punch.