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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 11:09:26
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Agile Revenant Titan
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The title says it all. Wondering if this is the dirtiest I can get into 2000 points....
Windrider host
Farseer - bike, spear, spirit stone.
Warlock conclave. 4x warlocks on bikes
3x scatter bikes.
3x scatter bikes.
3x shuriken cannon bikes
2x Vypers. Dual cannons, ghostwalk, holo fields.
Wraith construct
Wraithknight. 2x wraith cannons.
Wraith construct
Wraithknight. 2x wraith cannons, 2x lasers
Wraith construct
Wraithknight. Suncannon and scatter shield. 2x star cannons
Wraith construct
Wraithknight. Ghost glaive and scatter shield. 2x lasers.
1998 points in total...... Disgusting?
And I know one wraithknight isn't optimal with just two cannons. But that's how he was in 6th.
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 11:20:32
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Tunneling Trygon
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All of the people. All of the people will cry at this. No way to find the points to bump the bikes up to five per squad? Leadership tests could end up hurting very badly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 12:27:25
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
Norway
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Khaine's Wrath wrote:
And I know one wraithknight isn't optimal with just two cannons. But that's how he was in 6th.
Can WK fire more than 2 weapons now? I thought I checked for this under the gargantuan creature rules, but I can easily have missed something, or is it a change in how monstrous creatures work in 7th?
Since you are making this list as nasty as possible. Would it not make more sense to roll with 1 warlock and 1 Dual Cannon viper with no upgrades. If you can somehow get another farseer or more bikes I think that might be worth dropping some scatter lasers from your knights or whatever. I don't have the codex with me so I can't run the numbers to check before I make this comment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 12:38:22
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Not strong enough.
The WK have too less damage output and can get stuck in cc.
Its a large portion of your army that looks scary but isn't.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 13:02:26
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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3 invisible bloodthirsters walk into a bar. You wont see where im going with this.....
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37,500 pts Daemon Army of the Gods
35,000 pts - X - Iron Tenth
15,000pts - Firehawks
7,000 pts - Nighthaunt
 
Dkok - 1850
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 13:35:03
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Agile Revenant Titan
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wuestenfux wrote:Not strong enough.
The WK have too less damage output and can get stuck in cc.
Its a large portion of your army that looks scary but isn't.
Not strong enough? I've seen a lot of comments on new eldar lists from yourself. Not one I've seen has been positive. “not strong enough"? The knight alone lay out 4 D strength shots, 3 s6 ap 2 blasts and 20 S6 shots, 4 of which are AP2. And as for combat, they have 4/5 attacks at S10. S10 HoW, and stomp. They'll be fine.
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 13:54:31
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
Norway
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Well volume of fire on a knight can be a little low. Not that you would ever use it to fire on a space marine squad, but if you did, a WK with 2x wraithcannons will only kill 1 space marine on average. Also, it's no good anti-air. (But if you do manage two 6's in a row, good bye storm raven.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 14:08:23
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Khaine's Wrath wrote: wuestenfux wrote:Not strong enough.
The WK have too less damage output and can get stuck in cc.
Its a large portion of your army that looks scary but isn't.
Not strong enough? I've seen a lot of comments on new eldar lists from yourself. Not one I've seen has been positive. “not strong enough"? The knight alone lay out 4 D strength shots, 3 s6 ap 2 blasts and 20 S6 shots, 4 of which are AP2. And as for combat, they have 4/5 attacks at S10. S10 HoW, and stomp. They'll be fine.
They can certainly kill tough stuff, but I don't think you'll be rolling enough dice to take out the core of an army. How many Space Marines can a WK kill per turn? I haven't calculated but I don't think it's enough to actually win a game. That's why a good cheesy Eldar army should have a decent core of Jetbikes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 14:11:59
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Well, the suncannon knight can kill most of a squad a turn. But I do see your point. I have 3 squads of bikes that collectively unleashed 33 S6 shots. The vypers add another 12 for 45 on total. And there's always the chance the stone wielding seer will roll up eldritch storm.....
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 14:23:33
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
Norway
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Seer also helps with reroll to hits.
How easy is it to get the Glaive WK into assault? I would think the best counter would be to small crappy units in front of targets you don't want him to assault, or to kite him if you can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 14:51:31
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Well, being a jump gargantuan creature it's not ridiculously difficult. But people could 'annoy' it.
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 15:04:46
Subject: Re:[2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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to boost the bike numbers, I would just have 1 shoulder weapon on each knight (you need 1 simply to shoot at a close unit you want to assault while shooting the big guns elsewhere...although the sword knight doesn't need this). Drop the warlock to single and 1 Vyper. Bikes can now be bumped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 15:15:55
Subject: [2000] - Craftworld Eldar - Wraithknight spam. How many people will cry at this?
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Not nearly as bad as everyone says it is.
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Aftermath can be calculated.
Dark humor is like food, not everyone gets it. |
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