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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/05 13:29:00
Subject: [1850] - Eldar\Harlequin - Brainstorming
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Water-Caste Negotiator
Columbus
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Need some help to fill out a Eldar\Harlequin list
I have invested a good sum of money in Harlequins and Eldar. I bought a wraith army a month before they announced that the new Codex was coming. I have a small gaming group that I play with and am not trying to be a douche and run a bunch of D. Models I have...
Eldar
3 Farseers on bikes
Eldrad
40 Guardians
20 Dire Avengers
10 Banshee'
10 Spiders
3 War Walkers
1 Crimson plane\Hemlock
15 Wraith Guard
10 Pathfinders
4 Wraith Lord (yeah I know... why??)
1 Wraith Knight
3 Wave serpents
6 Scorpions
1 Wraith seer
2 Hornets
16 Bikes (6 New 10 Old)
2 Vypers
5 Fire dragons
Harlequins
1 Solitare
4 Shadowseers
3 Troups of Harlequins.. 5 each with Troupe Leader
4 Skyweaver
3 Starweaver\Voidweaver
Now I have been playing Tau and a Venom spam Dark eldar for years... so I kinda want to have fun with a psychic phase... and since Harlequins are pretty much all combat oriented... have to get them into combat. Unfortunately the Masque and Formations for Harlequins is pretty brutal.
Was thinking of running a Seer Council ... and a basic Masque... Just need to figure out what else I should have in there.. Tank hunting and Flyers seem to be my biggest concern.
Any suggestions? I would like to see some suggestions and then I will write up the first list!
Thank you for any help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/05 13:42:34
Subject: [1850] - Eldar\Harlequin - Brainstorming
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My advice with harlequins, run a max unit all with caress or kisses and put all characters in with them. With the combined psychic buffs they will not die and they will multi assault everything to death.
As with a list, there are no bad options, even banshees are useable with veil of tears and negating overwatch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/05 14:04:56
Subject: Re:[1850] - Eldar\Harlequin - Brainstorming
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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based on what you have (and points), perhaps look at using a Masque and an Aspect Host. Spiders, Dragons in serpent and Avengers in serpent shouldn't set you back too much in points (don't see need for banshees with harlies)
10 spiders, exarch, tl spinner 205
5 Dragons, exarch 120
serpent, TL bright lances 115
10 Dire avengers, exarch, pw/shimmer 160
serpent, TL bright lances 115
5 harlies, caress, 2 kiss, 2 embrace 123
starweaver 75
5 harlies, caress, 2 kiss, 2 embrace 123
starweaver (as fast attack) 75
5 harlies, caress, 2 kiss, 2 embrace 123
starweaver (as fast attack) 75
2 voidweavers 150
shadowseer, lvl 2, mask 100
shadowseer, lvl 2 85
jester 60
solitaire 145
1849 (you could drop the pw/shimmer on the dire avenger exarch to take HW grenades throughout your harlies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/05 15:49:23
Subject: Re:[1850] - Eldar\Harlequin - Brainstorming
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Water-Caste Negotiator
Columbus
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bullyboy wrote:based on what you have (and points), perhaps look at using a Masque and an Aspect Host. Spiders, Dragons in serpent and Avengers in serpent shouldn't set you back too much in points (don't see need for banshees with harlies)
10 spiders, exarch, tl spinner 205
5 Dragons, exarch 120
serpent, TL bright lances 115
10 Dire avengers, exarch, pw/shimmer 160
serpent, TL bright lances 115
5 harlies, caress, 2 kiss, 2 embrace 123
starweaver 75
5 harlies, caress, 2 kiss, 2 embrace 123
starweaver (as fast attack) 75
5 harlies, caress, 2 kiss, 2 embrace 123
starweaver (as fast attack) 75
2 voidweavers 150
shadowseer, lvl 2, mask 100
shadowseer, lvl 2 85
jester 60
solitaire 145
1849 (you could drop the pw/shimmer on the dire avenger exarch to take HW grenades throughout your harlies.
I like this list but what do the Dire avengers do? ( I know I did not list them) Hawks be better here? Who is my Warlord, Troup master or Shadowseer? Armor 14? Why two voidweavers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/11 13:20:15
Subject: Re:[1850] - Eldar\Harlequin - Brainstorming
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Water-Caste Negotiator
Columbus
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Nothing else?  Back to the drawing board...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/11 16:19:02
Subject: [1850] - Eldar\Harlequin - Brainstorming
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Regular Dakkanaut
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bringing models you own doesnt make you a douche, "friends" not wanting to play you because the rules of the game changed makes them douches.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 13:02:05
Subject: Re:[1850] - Eldar\Harlequin - Brainstorming
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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The army suggested is not bad for casual, there are a few adjustments I would make however. See my comments in yellow
bullyboy wrote:based on what you have (and points), perhaps look at using a Masque and an Aspect Host. Spiders, Dragons in serpent and Avengers in serpent shouldn't set you back too much in points (don't see need for banshees with harlies)
10 spiders, exarch, tl spinner 205
With the Aspect Host, your Exarch ends up with BS 6. Paying 5 points for Twin-Link at this point is just a waste. Keep the points for something else.
5 Dragons, exarch 120
serpent, TL bright lances 115
Your Fire Dragons can already take care of heavy armor. Lances are a bit redundant for their transport. Either equip the WS to give them support versus infantry for the transport or vehicule they just popped. Shuriken Cannons for exemple or go with EML to have at least one model that can shoot at flyers reliably.
10 Dire avengers, exarch, pw/shimmer 160
serpent, TL bright lances 115
Solid unit. Bright lance to help against vehicules since DAs are not geared for it. Good complement. If you need to shave points somewhere, get rid of the PW/Shimmer. DA's job are to shoot stuff not try to be Scorpions.
5 harlies, caress, 2 kiss, 2 embrace 123
starweaver 75
5 harlies, caress, 2 kiss, 2 embrace 123
starweaver (as fast attack) 75
5 harlies, caress, 2 kiss, 2 embrace 123
starweaver (as fast attack) 75
For Harlies, I usually go with 2 Caress and 2 Kisses with either a power sword or a kiss on the Troupe Master. I am not sold on Embraces yet. Sure HoW is nice but 2D3 attacks is not overwhelming given there is no AP and no further benefit. Useful when fighting units with a crappy save like Orks, Guards or Tau if you get in melee.
2 voidweavers 150
Good move, be ready for the unexpected AV 14 or 13 (Damn Necrons)
shadowseer, lvl 2, mask 100
shadowseer, lvl 2 85
jester 60
solitaire 145
[color=yellow] Good stuff all around. Always, ALWAYS have your Shadowseers at ML 2 since successful casting of Veil is primordial to your survival. You need as many dice as possible.
1849 (you could drop the pw/shimmer on the dire avenger exarch to take HW grenades throughout your harlies.
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