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Longtime Dakkanaut





UK

Unsure of how to fine tune my list, but this is what I have:

DE: Realspace Raiders
Archon w. Armour of Misery, Haywire Grenades = 80

Kabalite Warriors w/ DT: Venom w/ 2x Splinter Cannons = 105
Kabalite Warriors w/ DT: Venom w/ 2x Splinter Cannons = 105

Raider w/ Nightshields, Disintegrator = 70
Scourge w/ 4x Haywire Blaster = 120
Scourge w/ 4x Haywire Blaster = 120
Scourge w/ 4x Heat Lance = 120
Razorwing w/ Dark Lance, Necrotoxin = 140
Razorwing w/ Dark Lance, Necrotoxin = 140

DE: Formation - Scalpel Squadron
5x Wracks w/ DT: Venom w/ 2x Splinter Cannons = 115
5x Wracks w/ DT: Venom w/ 2x Splinter Cannons = 115

Harlequins: Formation - Cast of Players
Troupe w/ Haywire Grenades = 100
Shadowseer w/ ML2, Mask of Secrets, Haywire Grenades = 105
Deathjester w/ Haywire Grenades = 65

Would have liked some weapons on the Troupe but points are limiting and I really only want the Ld Debuff from Covens, Armour of Misery and Mask of Secrets for Psychic Shriek..extra ML2 is good too.

YMDC = nightmare 
   
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch






I personally prefer heroes path, especially for the purposes you are using them. Infiltrate allows shadowseer to get into range, and stealth+shrouded allows for 2+ cover saves. Mixed with some good LOS block you can stay safe and maintain optimum efficiency.

Overall, not bad.

Aftermath can be calculated.

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Longtime Dakkanaut





UK

I used the Cast of Players as I could put an Archon for another -2 Ld to Psychic Shriek, it is more expensive though.

How effective is the Shadowseer without the Armour of Misery?

YMDC = nightmare 
   
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch






The shadowseer itself has the mask of secrets. Which itself is a -2 to Ld.

Between that, and the negative leadership from the wracks deepstriking in you already have a significant leadership debuff. You can also still get the archon within range, the heroes path just makes it easier for the shadowseer to be effective.

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Aftermath can be calculated.

Dark humor is like food, not everyone gets it.  
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





UK

Would it be worthwhile dropping the Archon and Raider say, for a Lhamaean and Reavers and taking a Solitaire for Heroes path? How good are the 4-6 Warlord Traits for Harlequins in practice? That would be another benefit of Troupe. I think the Heroes path would be a bit cheaper once I take away the Raider and Archon..

YMDC = nightmare 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





UK

Any further comments?

Thinking of dropping one Haywire unit of Scourge for Heatlance, as I've got 3 BS5 Grenades from the Troupe unit (Archon goes with them), but hardly any AP1. Would like to keep the Scalpel Squadron as the option to null deploy is very nice and it's an additional Ld nerf but it would free up a fair few points.

YMDC = nightmare 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





I'd opt for the Heroes' Path, but that's just one of my favorite formations to use. Give the solitaire the rose for master crafted and shred when necessary. Dropping the raider & archon can work, especially with nabbing some reavers.

I like the haywire on the scourge. I don't think you need all the haywire on the characters (jester & seer), but if you have points it's not bad. Haywire does better than ap1 and you have some heat lances and dissies spread throughout.

ITC 2016 - Best of Harlequins  
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





UK

Thanks for the rate!

An alternative I could do is Heroes Path over Cast of Players and drop the Arcon for a Lhamaean and have 3 Reavers with an Arena Champion for Warlord Traits. Then, I could keep three units of Scourge and two Razorwings, or drop either a Flyer or unit of Scourge and ally in an Autarch on Jetbike and 3 Scatterbikes, just for reserve manipulation. Thoughts?

YMDC = nightmare 
   
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought





I would not take harlequins without weapon upgrades...makes no sense. Find points to add some kisses and a caress on troupe master or drop altogether and get the Solitaire for the Heroes Path
   
 
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