Best Mek Gunz

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**Frozocrone**

Which Mek Gunz are the most kompetitive?

In my current list I've got 5 Lobbas (which I really want to include as Barrage sniping is good from my Biovore days) and 5 Smasha Gunz. I also have 15 Lootas but I am contemplating switching them or the Smashas for other Gunz. I also have a MA Warboss for SnP (as well as Da Finkin' Kap for Infiltrate Warlord). Would it also be worthwhile mix matching (eg 3 KMK and 2 Traktors)? Help appreciated!

**killerdou**

Why do you want to switch the Loota's? Is it because they can't perform their AA duty or do they die too quickly or is the str 7 ap4 not good enough?

The ork codex seems to be pretty well balanced internally, so it's mostly about what you need rather than 'best'.

**Frozocrone**

Artillery is always fun, I just can't seem to fit everything I want in.

The Warboss can tank for them so there is that

**geargutz**

i personally would replace the smasha gunz with kmk (more reliable strength and arguably better shooting since its blast). geting at least 2 traktor gunz is a good combo, they are effective full bs against flyers and skimmers and if not they are at least snap shot s8 ap3 gunz.
dropping lootas can alow you to take different mek gunz and then increase those gunz squad sizes, and also purchase ammo runts for the gunz that need it the most.

**Zomnivore**

I really like the idea of an ork gun line. With a mega armor mek with KFF in with a bunch of lootas, near some big guns...but thats just the rule of cool in me going, that'd be cool to try.

Dunno if it'd be worth a darn.

**Hawkeye888**

The best Mek Gun is the one with the most dakka!

But really it just depends on what you like. Trakktor cannons definitely have a place if you play against fliers often.

But for ground work I like Lobbas and KMK's. They do decent work.

**Frozocrone**

Haha too true!

I am contemplating switching to KMKs. Smashas are hit or miss, particulary when firing at AV13 or higher and T6 upwards. At least KMK's only have to worry about getting hot and can wound/glance everything

**Krusha**

My traktor kannon is a great distraction carnifex.

**Dakkamite**

Lobbas are the best IMO. 36 range is alright if you get the long edge deployment type (hammer and anvil? forget the names), but if you get short edge or even diagonals you can be seriously limited in where you can place the weapons. With 48" and barrage Lobbas don't have this problem, plus they can be kept completely out of LoS to protect them from enemy shooting (or more accurately, the morale tests caused by suffering the tiny amounts of damage shooting can do to these things)

Kannons are also very nice due to their versatility. Served me well last edition and I can see myself fielding them more in this one.

Of the more expensive ones the KMK looks the most impressive on paper, because plasma cannons are always fantastic

**koooaei**

I always run a squad of 3-5 lobbas and abunch of single KMK as big gunz is basically all i have for heavy support. They're doing quite fine. Sometimes i take a single kannon for leftover points.

Trakktor kannons can be good and it's worth having a couple. I've also run a bubblechukka a few times and amazingly, it did fine in every game! Maybe, i'm lucky or maybe the opponent underestimates it as much as we all do. Or both. Cause on paper it's an underwhelming weapon but on table it somehow manages to find it's infantry targets. I've also run Zzap but didn't manage to achieve anything with it other than grots fleeing from overheating themselves. Which can be a reason to field it on it's own.

**Dakkamite**

Eh the single guns seems a bit cheesy, unless your legitimately getting slots for them

I've been saying bubblechukkas are good, glad to see someone agrees.

**koooaei**

Dakkamite wrote:
Eh the single guns seems a bit cheesy, unless your legitimately getting slots for them

I run footsloggas, so basically have 3-6 free heavy support slots as i mostly go for double cad in games over 1k. So, there's no reason to not get single guns to score points and cover more ground. Except for lobbas - they work best when in units of 3+ due to barrage rules.

**Glitcha**

Personally I play multiple batteries of Mek gunz. Usually 2 gunz in each battery.

Battery 1
KMK
KMK
4 ammo runts

Battery 2
Trakka kannon
Trakka Kannon
2 ammo runts

Battery 3
Kannon
Kannon

**koooaei**

iirc you can only take 1 ammo runt per gun.

**ProwlerPC**

Correct, the mek gun entry says only one ammo runt per gun.

**Flame-Rage**

I'd love to field multiple batteries to get a true artillery line feel, but they are just darn expensive. My plan is to grab one box anduse spare bitz to build the kmk, smash, and traktor gunz as an odd bunch of potential AT fire

**koooaei**

Flame-Rage wrote:
I'd love to field multiple batteries to get a true artillery line feel, but they are just darn expensive. My plan is to grab one box anduse spare bitz to build the kmk, smash, and traktor gunz as an odd bunch of potential AT fire

Luckilly, they're basically just artillery guns. So, you can get ww2 cannons for like 5-7$ a piece and orkify them. Will have to get grots though.

**Solar Shock**

What is the consensus on rolling for the random Gunz?
iirc the bubblechukka had wording that kinda implied you could roll for each bubble chukka individually (IE you'd get a battery firing different strengths and AP large blasts).

The wording is as follows for each;
Zzap - Each time a zzap gun is fire, roll 2D6 to determine its strength
Smasha - Roll once each shooting phase to determine the strength of the weapon
Bubble - Roll once each shooting phase to determine the strength and AP of the bubble chukka
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On topic;
Lobbas are incredible for their cost and all the other reasons already mentioned.
I think zzap guns do have a place, as they are only 23 pts, so not too shabby, just KMKs or smasha both feel superior and worth the cost investment.
Kannons? - Not sure what people make of these, cheaper, but at 12 pts extra you basically add a blast and reduce AP by 1 with the KMK.

Where do people put the tracktors? separate? or in with something? if so in with what?

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Something I am working on;
Mogroks boss boyz - (gives me D3 outflank with acute senses)
Big Mek - MA, KFF 2AmmoR
Big Mek - MA, DFK, 2AmmoR (warlord)
Big Mek - MA, 2AmmoR

Warboss - will be on a bike with a single copta for outflank, T6 majority and 2 ablative wounds + TL rokkit
Weirdboy - outflanking in a gunwagon with tankbustas - conferring tank hunter. For my CAD I may bring badrukk and add him too, making one nasty unit that outflanks with re-rolls on table edge.

Each BM is going with a unit of Mek gunz, most likely 2x 5KMKs and a single unit of 5 kannons, all with the ablative wounds and ammo runts. I add in 2 min grots units to bubblewrap.
Each of these Mek gunz units can move and fire, I put out 10 plasma blasts a turn and 5 kannon shots. They have T7 with a 5++ from shooting or a 3+ from the mek gunz, the bubblewrap grots will help prevent combat and can also act as scoring units later on in the game.
Everything else in my list will be outflanking, meaning the only stuff on the table is my KMK blob and its bubblewrap (might get a second CAD and hide some lobbas somewhere too)

**PipeAlley**

Solar Shock wrote:
What is the consensus on rolling for the random Gunz?
iirc the bubblechukka had wording that kinda implied you could roll for each bubble chukka individually (IE you'd get a battery firing different strengths and AP large blasts).

The wording is as follows for each;
Zzap - Each time a zzap gun is fire, roll 2D6 to determine its strength
Smasha - Roll once each shooting phase to determine the strength of the weapon
Bubble - Roll once each shooting phase to determine the strength and AP of the bubble chukka
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On topic;
Lobbas are incredible for their cost and all the other reasons already mentioned.
I think zzap guns do have a place, as they are only 23 pts, so not too shabby, just KMKs or smasha both feel superior and worth the cost investment.
Kannons? - Not sure what people make of these, cheaper, but at 12 pts extra you basically add a blast and reduce AP by 1 with the KMK.

Where do people put the tracktors? separate? or in with something? if so in with what?

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Something I am working on;
Mogroks boss boyz - (gives me D3 outflank with acute senses)
Big Mek - MA, KFF 2AmmoR
Big Mek - MA, DFK, 2AmmoR (warlord)
Big Mek - MA, 2AmmoR

Warboss - will be on a bike with a single copta for outflank, T6 majority and 2 ablative wounds + TL rokkit
Weirdboy - outflanking in a gunwagon with tankbustas - conferring tank hunter. For my CAD I may bring badrukk and add him too, making one nasty unit that outflanks with re-rolls on table edge.

Each BM is going with a unit of Mek gunz, most likely 2x 5KMKs and a single unit of 5 kannons, all with the ablative wounds and ammo runts. I add in 2 min grots units to bubblewrap.
Each of these Mek gunz units can move and fire, I put out 10 plasma blasts a turn and 5 kannon shots. They have T7 with a 5++ from shooting or a 3+ from the mek gunz, the bubblewrap grots will help prevent combat and can also act as scoring units later on in the game.
Everything else in my list will be outflanking, meaning the only stuff on the table is my KMK blob and its bubblewrap (might get a second CAD and hide some lobbas somewhere too)

I use Kannonz because I have 3 of the old metal ones and should be able to make 2 more. I have 3 IG mortars I use as Lobbas and should be able to get two more. I bought one new Mek gun and will eventually convert 4 old Trukks into Gunz. I like Smash Gunz for their AP 1 and ability to Skyfire if necessary.

Roll Str per gun until FAQ'd. That'll help average out strength. Some will be high and some low.

Also you might want to through some HQ Meks into you Artillery units.

**Solar Shock**

koooaei wrote:
Flame-Rage wrote:
I'd love to field multiple batteries to get a true artillery line feel, but they are just darn expensive. My plan is to grab one box anduse spare bitz to build the kmk, smash, and traktor gunz as an odd bunch of potential AT fire

Luckilly, they're basically just artillery guns. So, you can get ww2 cannons for like 5-7$ a piece and orkify them. Will have to get grots though.

as a side note, for lobbas, I take the ogryn cannon arms (£0.75 - on the bit site I use), then using the stormboyz rokkit smoke technique using scenery tree, I create a floating gun platform that looks like it is rokkit propelled. Each lobba is then on a 60mm base (but you don't have to base them), overall I can make a lobba for about £1.50 each. need 20 lobbas? well that's about £30

Whats a mek gun these days??

I have also done the same with KMKs using the same idea; heres a photo - I use odd connectors and bits to make the gun bodies and just sprinkle with orky bits to finish up (which I haven't done on this one yet)

**Frozocrone**

So here's an idea I came up with while trying to mix Kannons

3 Kannons
2 Traktors
5 Ammo Runts

= 129

So it's about the same cost as a Dakkajet with 3 shootas, yet is effective turn one and you can hide the Traktors at the back to protect them for AA duties. They can still snapshoot ground targets and all the gunz double out MEQ. Thoughts? Or is it never a good idea to mix gunz?

**Solar Shock**

If I was mixing, kannons and traktors would be the mix. Same stats, both can function as AA or ground targets (with a slight disadvantage either way).

Only concern would be you might want some extra grot crew in there, unless your giving them some sort of Mek? As LD5 they will be running once they take a few wounds. Also, they are 36" range, so you will need to position them well.

**OrkaMorka**

koooaei wrote:
Flame-Rage wrote:
I'd love to field multiple batteries to get a true artillery line feel, but they are just darn expensive. My plan is to grab one box anduse spare bitz to build the kmk, smash, and traktor gunz as an odd bunch of potential AT fire

Luckilly, they're basically just artillery guns. So, you can get ww2 cannons for like 5-7$ a piece and orkify them. Will have to get grots though.

With a $10 pack of Plasticard, and another 10$ pack of Plasticard tubing, I've made eight Mek Gunz. With some extra bits in our bits boxes, it looks great.

I found a tutorial on youtube that gives you a very basic but good looking cannon. I'll put it up after work.

Best part about Orks; standards are for the weak.