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Made in no
Raging Ravener




Norway

There is some general confusion going around the internet which I at first dismissed as people reading into a sentence whatever they wanted...until I re-read it myself. The sentence is: "A character with the Blood for the Blood God! special rule is slain, or slays an enemy character in a challenge." What has me doubting my initial dismissal is that comma in the middle there. The sentence as it stands now reads as if a Blood Tithe point is generated as long as character dies and also if he kills someone in a challenge. My initial reaction was that it's just poor writing by GW but having read it several times I'm now leaning towards a Blood Tithe point being generated whenever a character dies. I haven't played it that way yet but I would certainly like to.
What are your thoughts Dakkadakka? Just poorly written or intentional?

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Made in ie
Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller




It's contentious. Some people like to rule it one way, some the other.
" A character is killed , or slays an enemy in a challenge"

Technically as long as the character is killed a BT point would be generated.
If a Character slays an enemy in a challenge a BT point would also be generated.

So possibly poorly written, maybe intentional. Either,
A) they wanted a BT point at the end of a challenge, regardless of winner.
or B) They wanted a Lot of BT points (khorne cares not) and also wanted to reward you winning challenges.
   
Made in gb
Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu






Well the presence of the comma shows that there are two separate clauses or conditions in that sentence under which a blood tithe point is gained. 1) A character is killed, 2) A character kills an enemy character in a challenge.

There are certainly some RAI dissenters out there but in terms of RAW the rules are 100% clear on this. As we can't know the intention of the writer with any certainty the best course of action is to stick to the RAW.

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Longtime Dakkanaut




RAW there's a comma , so two separate clauses.

It's obviously a typo tho. That has no bearing on YMDC , but may affect how you choose to interpret the rules.
I personally won't be taking advantage of mistakes in written rules, when it's obvious they are mistakes (like the 5 point power fist lol)

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Made in ie
Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller




It's not concrete that it's a mistake.
It could very well be, but It's far from obvious.

They could very well have intended a BT point after evey challenge regardless of winner.

They could also have intended to show the 2 ways BFTBG charachters can generate points, Eg. Dying, or winning a challenge.

It's certainly not black and white to assume what the intent was.
   
Made in au
Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot





the down underworld

This is why the oxford comma exists lol.

If there was a second comma before "in a challenge" then the rule would be clear. As it is written, they can be considered two separate clauses

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Dakka Veteran





Yup, just to echo what everyone else said: I suspect the intent was slaying (in a challenge) and being slain (in a challenge), but that's not what it actually says...
   
 
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