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Not sure if this is a YMTC or general (hoping i picked right).

I've been looking more at the FW drop pods and was wondering, would people mind if i used the plastic Drop Pod (leaving out the harnesses and stuff) to represent the Dreadnought Drop Pod? I get that they are different sizes, but since the normal one is actually smaller, it is more of a hindrance to me than an advantage, less LOS blocked, less area affected by the special rules for shooting through.

I made it a poll just cause i'm more after a HIWPI response, yeah its fine we dont all have money to burn, no the models are models kind of thing. And when i talk to the local guys they're mostly indifferent.

Although, on a side note, technically the Lucius Pattern drop pod, as its called in IA:2, doesnt have a model. Cause the model FW sells is called the "DREADNOUGHT DROP POD"... <-- worth a try right

For things dropping, smaller lets you drop in tighter spaces, so is often an advantage.

That said, I don’t care, but that’s just HIWPI.

 Nevelon wrote:
For things dropping, smaller lets you drop in tighter spaces, so is often an advantage.

That said, I don’t care, but that’s just HIWPI.

True, hadn't looked at it that way.

I wouldn't force anyone to buy a forgeworld model at forgeworld prices when any amount of converting would visually achieve the desired effect and the points were paid.

I dont see an isssue.
Also worth noting (at least in the BA Codex I have infront of me) that in the entry for the plain old "Drop Pod" 1x Dreadnought is listed as its transport capacity. I do not see why people would make you get a special forgeworld pod instead.

Yeah, normal Drop Pods can hold a Dreadnaught... Why would anyone say you have to buy a special one?

Anyone who tells you you have to have the FW one is playing silly buggers.

The forgeworld one has extra special rules(allowing assault from it if irc and that hasn't been changed)

I'd get the FW one pure for aesthetics, but I don't care if you use a converted one or the normal drop pod. Hell, use a cup if you want. I did when I had no drop pods to use.

 tydrace wrote:
I'd get the FW one pure for aesthetics, but I don't care if you use a converted one or the normal drop pod. Hell, use a cup if you want. I did when I had no drop pods to use.

Thats the thing, i like the FW one, but i'd like to run a list with about 5-6 of them.. and thats way too much just cause i like the model.

I would be fine if someone played one that was papercraft. The Forgeworld one is too expensive. The Lucius Drop Pod doesn't really have a good reason for existing in the first place, since Dreadnoughts could always use regular drop pods.

Some dreadnoughts can ONLY use the lucius pod, like contemptors and such.

I think in those cases, I would want my opponent to, at the very least, have something of equivalent size to use rather than a regular drop pod. The size difference isn't negligible, and as Nevelon said earlier, that could be a decent advantage. Nobody should be FORCED to get the FW model, though - it's h'rather h'expensive.

Also I think the whole assaulting from deep strike via lucius was errata'd, no?

No need for an FAQ, current rules dont allow a charge from a deep striking Lucius. They just allow you to wait embarked, then assault out turn 2. effectively giving you an AV12 shield for a turn.

I do that haha... so I would let you

 Iron_Warden wrote:
No need for an FAQ, current rules dont allow a charge from a deep striking Lucius. They just allow you to wait embarked, then assault out turn 2. effectively giving you an AV12 shield for a turn.

What is it that lets you remain embarked?

The lucius rules, mainly. They have diferent rules, including giving "shrouded" to units behind the pod when being shot at the turn it lands.

The Lucius drop pods does not have the rule that forces you to disembark upon landing.

CanisLupus518 wrote:

 Iron_Warden wrote:
No need for an FAQ, current rules dont allow a charge from a deep striking Lucius. They just allow you to wait embarked, then assault out turn 2. effectively giving you an AV12 shield for a turn.

What is it that lets you remain embarked?

The Lucius has no rules requiring you to disembark the turn the Pod lands. It's just a normal, AV12, Open-Topped, Immobile Transport at that point.

Honestly, It's a great buy to help protect Shooty Dreads. Since the Pod is Open-Topped, the Dread inside can shoot out. Just leave him in there and don't disembark. Your opponent will have to pop the pod before being able to shoot at the Dread.

I was considering using it to help get some SW dreads (like Murderfang) into CC without dying to shooting

To answer your question - I wouldn't mind, keeping in mind normal drop pods allow dreads to be taken, but they must disembark as soon as they land and cannot assault from the pod.

The Lucius pod allows you to remain embarked after it is dropped, giving you an open topped transport with AV 12 all the way around for as long as you want, as well as the ability to assault directly out of it.

As mentioned, the smaller a pod, the more places you can cram them and thus the better they are. I used a larger base when I was proxy'ing a normal pod as the Lucius until I found a used one for cheap and no one had an issue with it-especially since my base was significantly larger than the Lucius Pod.

I specifically wanted it to deliver Murderfang into CC and as I understand the rules (and I can't seem to find any errata) you can run the Lucius pod one of two ways.

1) Drop in a shooty dread who can stay inside the cozy AV 12 Open Topped Transport all damn day.

2) Immediate assault out of it the first turn. As the IA:2 note specifically allows assaulting immediately after the pod drops.

Please correct me if I am wrong in this or if there is any errata.