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So in my last Peak Performance I ran into a mini Voyagernought, only 7 defense dice fortunately through no planning what so ever I had a few tricks to deal with it. However now that we have shuttles and Hood Riker, it may be easier for folks to bring their dreadnoughts to the table. So this got me to thinking how can I mess with these super high defense builds? Then I had a cunning plan and this is what I came up with:

32 D'Deridex (borgified)
03 Salatrel
05 Magnometric Guided Charges
02 Cloaked Mines*
02 Romulan Helmsman

32 D'Deridex
04 Toreth
04 Mendak
05 Magnometric Guided Charges
02 Cloaked Mines*
02 Romulan Helmsman

12 Romulan Science Vessel
04 Donatra
05 Independent Fleet Captain (Tech*)
00 Romulan Talent
02 Interphase Generator*
02 Cloaked Mines*
02 Cloaked Mines*

So this breaks some of my basic list building rules. 1) I don't like Donatra builds, she does nothing if the rest of the fleet is destroyed, 2) I also don't care for support ships that can't attack. However I thought I would leave my comfort zone for the sake of theory.

The basic idea behind this list would be to create a bubble with the cloaked mines on your side of the board, then reverse and let the opponent come to you. Now if Donatra is close by the charges will be able to get 4 attacks. Now that doesn't sound like much, but I figure if the opponent doesn't get defense dice that can add up. The Warbirds should be able to use TL on the 1st volley and Donatra should be able to use Mendak's fleet action to give out some BS. Plus the charges convert 1 BS to a crit. Also Salatrel should shoot at 10 and Toreth 9.

The mines will probably do some damage as the opponent passes through then focus fire one volley of high quality charges. That should be enough to put a souped up Voyager on the ropes. A Scimitar may take another turn. The Helmsman will allow the Warbirds to backup and enable the charges for a 2nd volley, also if you placed them right the opponent should still be in your mines With 6 hull and 4 shield the Warbirds should be beefy enough to get 2-3 volleys off with the charges.

I don't think this list is suited for Q 1&2, but if I had another Peak Performance, I would be tempted to try it. Mines, plus 2 sets of charges a turn and no defense dice to be seen, lets face it nobody takes Gul Damar

So what do you guys think, playable or waste of points

the other guy can just not come at you, and win cause you discarded the mine cards


also any fast ships that move up the first turn will mess with you.


still, lots of people wont think to do that so itd be a neat list to try out

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If you discard a card to use its text ability you place it under your ship card and the opponent only gets points for it if they destroy that ship. If the force you to discard something with SUPERIOR INTELLECT or IMPULSE OVERLOAD then they get the points.

So unless they want a draw which I beleive is still a dice off to count BS holding back isn't a good move for them.

I keep coming back to this list for Q2. I think I might have potential since q doesn't effect secondary weapons. Some slight tweaking,

32 Warbird
03 Salatrel
05 charges
02 IG
02 Romulan Helmsman

32 Warbird
04 Toreth
01 admiral Herin
05 charges
02 IG
02 Romulan Helmsman

12 science vessel
04 Donatra
05 fleet captain (tech)
02 cloaked mines
02 cloaked mines
02 cloaked mines
03 Quark (disrrutor beams)

Quark gives Donatra a little more punch. The only part that does bother me is putting so many points into a 2 hull ship, but the shots from the charges combined with the mines should drop something quickly. I like Salatrel but Taris is tempting to kick the hemsman out fhe airlock for an emergency 360 shot.

Well both fleets are going to be tough thats for sure, I wouldn't want to face them, not with slower ships thats for sure.

Isn't the generic Borg D'D 34 points for the extra point of atk it has? I could've sworn Avatar was 36 points.

Avatar is 34 points. 4 attack, 2, evade, 6 hull, 5 shields = 17 × 2 = 34. Generic drops a shield for 32 points. The Rom/Borg warbird is becoming my go to ship for romulans. Its stats are more representative of the warbird than the regular version. Khazara is nice but has to cloak, the duel faction ship can still raise shields after a few hits.