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As title states, 1500 list, actually 1497.
This is the 1st list i wrote for the 7th edition and it`s the 1st match vs an unknown enemy so it should still be flexible and no tailor making.
It is battle forged and it is also the Slaughtercult formation. Here it is

Lord of Slaughter
Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage

Slaughtercult
Skulltaker (riding in Landraider)
8 Bloodletters, 1 Bloodreaper, Instrument and Banner of Blood (also in Landraider)
13 Bloodletters, Instrument and Banner of Blood (deep striking)
14 Bloodletters, Banner of Blood (deep striking)
5 Possessed (paying tax)

War Engines
Soul Grinder with Phlegm Bombardment
Helbrute with Plasma Cannon and Power Scourge


Land Raider with Havoc Launcher

The plan is to keep the Possessed in the backfield, possibly guarding a flank or objective with help from the Helbrute and the Soul Grinder.
Soul Grinder and Bloodthirster are the main anti Flyers and the Landraider sprints forwards his contents in the enemy up front.
The 13 and 14 strong Bloodletters will hopefully pull each other with the Instrument and use the Banner of Blood from the other Bloodletters as a beacon.
Blood Tithe points will be used on the FNP, +1 attack or summoning Bloodcrushers.

Any pointers and ideas will be greatly appreciated.

I don't think you can take a Land Raider in a Blood Host formation except as a dedicated transport for terminators, which in a Blood Host are only available in the Brazen Onslaught formation. You also might consider replacing one of the units of Bloodletters (and the aforementioned illegal Land Raider) with a 10 man CSM squad with 2 meltaguns (for popping tanks) and your choice of weapons on the Aspiring Champion. You might also consider a Rhino for the possessed to get them down the field faster unless you intend to leave them in your backfield to protect home objectives. Also, I'm not sure you need all those Banners of Blood. Having one, at most two, should be sufficient to allow scatter-free deep strikes. Bloodreaper upgrades are more valuable (more characters means more Blood Tithe points!).

I was under the impression that you can take the formations plus anything from the book like for example the landraider and it wont be in the primary formation/slaughtercult. It will not benefit from any command bonuses or anything. I need the landraider as a quick and safe delivery system for skulltaker and buddies to spearhead the attack

You would need to take an allied CSM force or Khorne Daemonkin CAD to include the LR.

The slaughtercult specifies what units may be selected for that formation. LR's are not available either as individual units or dedicated transports for
any of the units available to a Slaughtercult formation.

For any daemon unit that will be deployed on the table, you do not need the Instrument. In a KdK force, the instrument's only benefit is when the unit
with the instrument becomes available from Deep Strike Reserve. The instrument allows them to drag another unit from reserve when they arrive so you
have 2 units coming down instead of 1.

I like that you have the Helbrute in there. Many players feel they are not a strong unit but I'm certain they have a place in the army. Would be interested
in knowing how it works out for you.

Thanks,
Tom

eldrad2000 wrote:
I was under the impression that you can take the formations plus anything from the book like for example the landraider and it wont be in the primary formation/slaughtercult. It will not benefit from any command bonuses or anything. I need the landraider as a quick and safe delivery system for skulltaker and buddies to spearhead the attack

The blood host tells you what you can specifically take. There is no option for the land raider in the Blood Host detachment.

Yaha! OK I see. What if I take out skulltaker, his small unit of bloodletters and join them with the landraider to form an allied detachment?  I will miss the command benefits from the slaughter cult, but the blood tithe will still work on these guys since they are collectively considered as a "Khorne demonkin army" or am I wrong? Also I need to drop the insensate rage thirster for the unfettered fury and he will be my warlord. Or is any other hq unit better for this slaughtercult?

Its quite tricky to do what you want to do legally. The blood host doesn't allow land raiders, and you cannot take an allied detachment of the same faction as your primary.

There are 3 options

1: Run unbound. The list you first posted is then perfectly legal, and the formation bonuses will still apply, but you will not gain the detachment bonuses (extra blood point)from the blood host detachment.
2: Run an additional combined arms detachment of daemonkin. This would need another 2 troops and hq, but gives you a lot of freedom in what to field. Of course everything in the CAD would not gain the slaughtercult bonus.

3 Run an allied detachment of chaos marines. You would need a non daemon hq and troop, but can then take a land raider. this can take dirge casters, which is a plus.
The HQ could be a sorcerer (risking khornes wrath..) which gives a nice boost to daemonkin. alternatively belakor is very good (but lots of points).


Given the challenges it might be easier to drop the land raider. Or indeed, drop the blood host.

Captyn_Bob wrote:
Its quite tricky to do what you want to do legally.
2: Run an additional combined arms detachment of daemonkin. This would need another 2 troops and hq, but gives you a lot of freedom in what to field. Of course everything in the CAD would not gain the slaughtercult bonus.

Here is my re-thought list

Slaughtercult
Skulltaker -- warlord (inside Land Raider)
8 Bloodletters + Bloodreaper + blood banner (inside Land Raider)

5 Possessed Marines

9 Bloodletters + Bloodreaper + blood banner (deep striking)

Soul grinder + Phlegm Bombardment
Helbrute + Plasma cannon and Power Scourge


Combined Arms Detachment

Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury

9 Bloodletters + Bloodreaper + blood banner (deep striking)
9 Bloodletters + Bloodreaper + blood banner (deep striking)

LandRaider + Havoc Launcher


Now I hope this is legally a Battle Forged army and still gets the Objective secured troops. Then again, the CAD will miss on any extra buffs from blood tithes such as FNP and extra attacks. But if i kill units with the CAD, my Slaughtercult get their the tithe points right??

Everything generates points yes.

I would put the possessed with skulltaker in the land raider. They hit really hard .

the reason I have bloodletters in the land raider is because it is very fluffy, more bodies as shield and the blood banner. I have no points to put a wrath banner on the possessed. Or then I have to tone down the bloodletters. But it is not a bad idea. Will try it out though as it sounds nice