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Can you jink without having moved, say on the first turn if you went second?

I e always played it as you can't, but I can't actually see that limitation in the rules - it was in 6th maybe?

It's just a universal special rule. If somebody tries to shoot a unit that can jink...they can jink (although some weapons ignore that cover save anyway)

It used to be a rule, but is no longer.

Immobilized vehicles still may not Jink, I believe.

 Jimsolo wrote:
It used to be a rule, but is no longer.

Immobilized vehicles still may not Jink, I believe.

Immobilized can Jink still.


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only real restrictions; Heavy and super heavy vehicles can't, super heavy flyers can.

 Iron_Warden wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
It used to be a rule, but is no longer.

Immobilized vehicles still may not Jink, I believe.

Immobilized can Jink still.

Not with the last rulebook FAQ. If they are Immobilized they completely lose the Jink rule.

 Iron_Warden wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
It used to be a rule, but is no longer.

Immobilized vehicles still may not Jink, I believe.

Immobilized can Jink still.


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only real restrictions; Heavy and super heavy vehicles can't, super heavy flyers can.

The BRB did not include a restriction, but the FAQ added a restriction for Immobilized skimmers.

Somewhat on topic, I'm curious:

If a vehicle suffers a crew stunned result, may it jink against further shooting? Don't have my rulebook on me, so I'm not sure if the crew stunned result specifically states you are immobilized for a turn or you just can't move for a turn.

Charistoph wrote:

 Iron_Warden wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
It used to be a rule, but is no longer.

Immobilized vehicles still may not Jink, I believe.

Immobilized can Jink still.

Not with the last rulebook FAQ. If they are Immobilized they completely lose the Jink rule.

I'm looking at the FAQ for the main rulebook atm, no mention of Jink in there. Is it another FAQ you're referring to? (Last updated October 2014)

Under page 89, skimmers~

'Skimmers that are not also heavy vehicles or are immobilized have the jink special rule.'

Updated Jan 2015

 Iron_Warden wrote:

Charistoph wrote:

 Iron_Warden wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
It used to be a rule, but is no longer.

Immobilized vehicles still may not Jink, I believe.

Immobilized can Jink still.

Not with the last rulebook FAQ. If they are Immobilized they completely lose the Jink rule.

I'm looking at the FAQ for the main rulebook atm, no mention of Jink in there. Is it another FAQ you're referring to?

This one. Second entry under 'Errata.'

oh, wow. Seems i have the wrong link for where the FAQs are... my appologies

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Errata/Warhammer_40000/Warhammer_40000_Rules_EN.pdf

Second point in the errata section.

The wording is a little wonky (technically, it doesn't mean what we think it means), but it's be hard to argue that the intention is to only give Jink to Immobilized vehicles...

Edit: wow, ninja'd badly.

 gribblygrrl wrote:
Somewhat on topic, I'm curious:

If a vehicle suffers a crew stunned result, may it jink against further shooting? Don't have my rulebook on me, so I'm not sure if the crew stunned result specifically states you are immobilized for a turn or you just can't move for a turn.

crew stunned just says the vehicle cannot leave its spot/spin. Jink is only prevented if the vehicle is immobilized - which is a very specific condition. cre stunned does not make a vehicle immobilized.

 gribblygrrl wrote:
Under page 89, skimmers~

'Skimmers that are not also heavy vehicles or are immobilized have the jink special rule.'

Updated Jan 2015

From the looks of this, immobilized vehicles have the jink special rule.

Not is clearly modifying both clauses.

Unfortunately "are not also heavy vehicles" and "are immobilised" form two separate verb phrases.

It's poorly written in terms of showing meaning, though I think the intent is clear.

Yeah, there were extensive discussions on this when the FAQ was revised. The wording is terrible, and actualy says the opposite of what it should, but you'll find very few people, if any, who would actually try to take it as written. Most people seem to read it as intended anyway.

 Jimsolo wrote:
It used to be a rule, but is no longer.

Immobilized vehicles still may not Jink, I believe.

I'm curious what makes you say it's not a special rule? It's right there in the universal special rule section. Event he rules such as: 'Skimmers that are not also heavy vehicles or are immobilized have the jink special rule.' refer to it as a special rule.

Roknar wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
It used to be a rule, but is no longer.

Immobilized vehicles still may not Jink, I believe.

I'm curious what makes you say it's not a special rule? It's right there in the universal special rule section. Event he rules such as: 'Skimmers that are not also heavy vehicles or are immobilized have the jink special rule.' refer to it as a special rule.

What Jim meant is that the rule used to be that you had to have moved in the previous turn in order to benefit from Jink (5th Ed.?), but that is no longer the case.

Ah,..duh lol. Makes sense thanks