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Hey guys! I haven't played 40k since 5th edition and just getting back into it. I previously played Eldar but sold that army so thought it was a great opportunity to try out a new army.

Haemonculus coven supplement army.

5x Talos (w. Chainfails & splinter cannons) - for the 5x Talos formation for the Scout Move

2 Squads of 5x Wracks inside 2 Venoms (w. liquifer flamer) - for the formation in the Coven book

2 Squads of 7x Grotesques w. 1x Haemonculus w, each squad with liquifier and webway portal

2 Squads of 5 Scourges w. 4 Blasters a squad

It comes out to just under 1500 pts.

I play against Space Marines all day every day (Space Wolves, Chaos Space Marines). So the point is to get into assault with the Talos while the two venoms grab objectives and zip around. Then 2 near-max squads of Grots show up behind their lines with the webway portal and wrack Space Marine face causing complete chaos. Scourges are my only Anti-Tank. then hope I win.

What are your thoughts on this assault-oriented army?

Scourge can't be taken in a Covens detachment.

But like, that's fine, because you could just take two Cronos w/ Spirit Probes and then everyone gets a 4+ FnP..

Oh crap! So I need to ALLY a regular dark eldar detachment then right?

What would the best way to do this? I need 1 HQ 2 troops from the regular Dark Eldar?

Darn it.


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 Frozocrone wrote:
Scourge can't be taken in a Covens detachment.

But like, that's fine, because you could just take two Cronos w/ Spirit Probes and then everyone gets a 4+ FnP..

But then this list has almost ZERO Anti-tank apart from the Talos Tail weapons which aren't the best dedicated AT.

Talos are S7 and Grotesques are S5. Against most vehicles of rear armour 10-11 you should be fine. Walkers might be a bit of an issue but Talos can pump through enough attacks to glance it to death.

And yes, for Kabal/Wych stuff you would have to take a combined arms detachemtn or Realspace Raiders detachment.

If you want your Warlord to be a Haemonculus then a Lhameans for HQ works fine, keep it in reserve and have it claim a backfield objective. Kabalite Warriors work well for troops, put them in Venoms and be done with it (Blasters optional).

also, you also need only 1 troop, not 2 for an allied detachment.

otherwise good stuff.

The scapel squadron (2 wracks) has to be in deep strike reserve and automatically comes in turn 1. Pretty awesome

happy wargaming,

-Mikey

 gummyofallbears wrote:
also, you also need only 1 troop, not 2 for an allied detachment.

otherwise good stuff.

The scapel squadron (2 wracks) has to be in deep strike reserve and automatically comes in turn 1. Pretty awesome

happy wargaming,

-Mikey

True but an allied detachment can't be the same faction as your primary detachment and Covens and Codex: DE have the same faction.

So I use Haemonculus Coven as my primary (no troops)

Then take Dark Eldar as allies so I take 1 HQ and 1 troop and then I get my scourges?

Nope - as pointed out you can't use the allied detachment in this case as you are prohibited from having the same faction.

The easy way would be to run...

Corpse Thief claw (5 Talos - I would go 5 haywire, 3 ichor injectors)

Scapel squadron (2x5 wracks in venoms)

Grotesquerie (2x4 Grots plus 1 haemy with WWP)

DE Combined arms Detachment
HQ - 1 haemy with WWP (joins 1 unit of Grots)
Trp1 - 5 warriors, venom w 2 cannons
Trp1 - 5 warriors, venom w 2 cannons
Fast - 5 Scourges with 4 haywire

Essentially you have to drop 6 grots to make up the troops but the grots are better in the formation this way anyway.

That is sub-optimal because I feel I need larger Grot squads against Space Marine assault units.

Also warriors in Venoms do nothing in this case apart from a lot of anti-infantry firepower.

Also I only get 1 Scourge Squad from this.... :(

Remember that your grots have rampage so smaller squads work fine

maybe drop the scapel squadron, unless doing null deployment.

Grots will hold themselves against anything besides large terminator units (2+ save it hard to eat through with the way I roll).

Assault squads are not an issue when it comes to groestques, they have less attacks than optimal, with not ID and 5s to wound, its not an issue. Also, in the grotesquerie formation, they all get basically better combat drugs, so like fleet, shred, FNP4+. T6, S6, rage. Pretty great IMHO, especially rage, coupled with rampage could be up to 9 attacks PER grotesque.

I think it looks fine. Only issue being anti tank, but theres not really much we can do about it.

happy wargaming,

-Mikey