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Nomeny wrote:
You have to see them side by side, but the most recent Tactical box is far ahead of the 3rd edition one.

i totally agree with this...
the latest version of the Tac. Squad box is my favorite, and i have been on this ride since the very first Marines came out...
the stances have become more upright, and the assembled Marines seem to have been scaled up just enough to notice a difference from the previous kit...
the newest Marines feel just that little bit bigger, and it makes a huge difference to my eye...
there are more new weapon options then ever before, new helmet and backpack styles, nicer shoulder pads, cooler arm poses, deeper detail, and now we even have bigger, better bases to put them on...

for my money, there is a worthwhile improvement to each generation of plastic kit that GW has released...
i really enjoy watching the kits evolve and improve, and that is that keeps me buying...
to me, kits like the plastic Vanguard Vets blow away the previous metal kit, and i love metal models...
the Sternguard might be a tie, because the older Vets had a lot of style, and the new kit has more options...
unforunately, a lot my metal vets suffered from a slight distortion of the helmets, not badly, but enough that i notice it...
that doesn't happen with plastics...
the new Devastator kit not only looks cooler to me, but comes with more weapon options than ever before, and bigger bases...
the new Assault Squad has even more dynamic leg poses than the previous kit, more weapon options, and scenic bases...

it seems to me, there is everything to like about each new generation of plastic kit, as they clearly do improve over previous sculpts...
if price puts anybody off, that is fine, and i really can't argue with that, as it is a personal choice...
if your complaint is that the new kits are too expensive, that is totally reasonable, but if the complaint is that the newer kits are no better than the previous versions, i completely disagree...

as long as GW's kits keep evolving, they will continue to give me a reason to keep buying...

cheers
jah

 JamesY wrote:
@ Lanrak in the last 18 months I have bought miniatures from gw (both citadel and fw), pp, reaper, mantic, hi-tech, studio McVey, Tor, antimatter, avatars of war, Spartan, victrix, mirilton and a few more. I'm really not fussed about the miniature count per pound, I'm bothered about having the models that excite me and make me want to paint them the most. GW make the models that excite me the most, and when I compare them to the models of the other companies that I have bought from, I genuinely think that they are better.

this is the point that i emphasize in every thread like this...
i buy minis from at least a dozen different manufacturers, but none of them get me as excited to paint as a GW Space Marine...

cheers
jah

 Korinov wrote:

 keezus wrote:

 Talys wrote:

If someone isn't concerned about the total price of the army, and they're more interested in cool miniatures, there's a good chance they'll just grab the 40k stuff.

I'm not sure why you are so convinced that those in search of "cool miniatures" will head straight for 40k, do not pass go, do buy other products. :-/

Actually, if someone wants "cool minis" and is not concerned about pricing, I'd say they'd rather grab the Hitech Miniatures stuff before any GW product.

unless, like me, you think that Hitech minis are incredibly ugly...
i would not buy them, personally...
you would literally have to pay me to paint one, as their models do nothing or me...
same goes for Scibor's version of "not" Adeptus Astartes...

all i collect are what i feel are "cool minis", and i can honestly say that GW minis are my absolute favorite minis to collect and paint...
as a kid growing up, they were my choice of Ral Partha or Grenadier...
now, 30 years later, they are still my choice over Infinity, PP, or any other minis...
i still buy the minis i like from every manufacturer on the market, but when i think of what i would like to paint, it is always a variety of Adeptus Astartes...
even after 30 years, there are still so many iconic pieces of 40k background that i want to bring to life in miniature, but haven't had the time for...
i think i could happily go through the rest of my life painting, and still not paint every version of an Adeptus Astartes that i "fantasy paint" in my head...
the lore is that deep, and inspires me that much...
some may see it differently, and that's cool, but for me it is not about fanatical devotion to one company, or product line, but about what inspires me the most to create, and that is the 40K universe...

cheers
jah

how many C&D's have they actually sent out???
i know of the Bloodbowl website...
i'm sure there have been a handful that i don't exactly recall the names of...
do we have a list???

how many companies have actually been taken to court???
i know of Chapterhouse...
a company that was selling a female Striking Scorpions Exarch model...
i know that they requested Amazon take down Spots, but i don't believe anyone was sued there...

this is not a defence, just a fact finding question...
i do think GW Legal have been very heavy-handed, and lost a lot of community goodwill, as well as customers...

what doesn't seem to be mentioned here, is that competition in the market is a good thing...
the fact that people have more options is great...
the fact that people are able to take their experience in the design studio, and start their own successful companies is wonderful...
the GW monopoloy is dead, and that can only be to the good...

we are here talking about a company that has what, £12 million in profits, after all expenses are paid???
do i have that right???
again, just asking to know, myself...

it seems like the answer to the OP's topic is simple...
that people are still buying GW product is what keeps GW financially alive, and the fact that they make a profit at the end of the year is why they do not tank...
will they in the future???
not a single one of us knows the answer to that...

until the day they die, i will be buying the stuff they make that seems cool to me, and not buying the stuff i don't like...
until the day i die, i will still be struggling to make it through painting the pile of minis i already own...

cheers
jah

thanks Az and Warboss...
nice refresher...

it would be interesting to get the inide scoop fom Paulson about how things went down...

i can't really blame GW legal for jumping on the Blight Wheel Loxatl, as it was pretty much a perfect version of the artwork...
GW should have bought the mini, and released it, instead of going on the attack...

GW Legal's actions are way too heavy-handed, for sure...
i would never argue that alienating the fan base, and being overly litigious is a good thing...
that is crazy that pics got deleted from your Photobucket, Az...

i'm just happy that the company is still able to release awesome new models like the Tech-Priest and Terminator Librarian...
as long as they keep making more impressive models, i will keep buying them, but only if they are not in Finecast:(...

cheers
jah

 Azreal13 wrote:
I think you're slowly coming around to the view that perhaps Kirby isn't the most gifted CEO/Chairman in history.

one thing i will say for the guy, he certainly seems to have done well for himself...

cheers
jah