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In the BRB under flyers it says under the rule "hard to hit" that you can't hit them with blast weapons.
But when you go to the page for FMC under the same rule "hard to hit" the rule is the same word for word, but the can't be hit by blast weapons is not there.
So according to the rules they can be hit by blast weapons (by they I mean FMC) good bye be'lakor haha

Well you still have to be able to fire blasts at a FMC first since they still force you to snap fire.

But yes FMCs can be hit by blast. Everyone knew this when 7ed dropped.

Not just hit, they can be trageted by blasts. If I shoot a D-cannon at a FMC there's no restrictions.

FMC still have "Shots resolved at such a target can only be resolved as Snap Shots" as a rule. Blasts can not be Snap Shot at all.

All this does is let you Skyfire blasts at FMCs or get a hit if a blast happens to scatter on to one.

Dman137 wrote:
Not just hit, they can be trageted by blasts. If I shoot a D-cannon at a FMC there's no restrictions.

Not if they're a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature :

"A Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature is a very difficult target for units without specialised weapons. Shots resolved at such a target can only be resolved as Snap Shots unless the model or weapon has the Skyfire special rule."

"Some weapon types, such as Template and Ordnance, or those that have certain special rules, such as Blast, cannot be fired as Snap Shots."

 Mr. Shine wrote:

Dman137 wrote:
Not just hit, they can be trageted by blasts. If I shoot a D-cannon at a FMC there's no restrictions.

Not if they're a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature :

"A Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature is a very difficult target for units without specialised weapons. Shots resolved at such a target can only be resolved as Snap Shots unless the model or weapon has the Skyfire special rule."

"Some weapon types, such as Template and Ordnance, or those that have certain special rules, such as Blast, cannot be fired as Snap Shots."

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That rule isn't under the FMC entry in the BRB


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If lets say your hive tyrant is beside a unit of gaunts, I can target the gaunts and place the templet so that I also hit the FMC

Dman137 wrote:
That rule isn't under the FMC entry in the BRB

Which one? The first is Hard to Hit and I'm looking at it under Flying Monstrous Creatures right now.

The second is from Snap Shots, which you're forced to fire against a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature. The rules for Blast weapons additionally state they cannot be fired as Snap Shots.

If lets say your hive tyrant is beside a unit of gaunts, I can target the gaunts and place the templet so that I also hit the FMC

That's not targeting the Flying Monstrous Creature, and is only allowed if you've additionally covered as many models from the unit of gaunts as possible.

You only have to play the whole over the unit you are targeting, as long as the whole of the template is over the unit in targeting then I can clip a FMC,

Like if there's a unit of 10 gaunts and the tyrant is right beside them, I can place the centre of the whole on the last gaunt and clip the tyrant. You get to pick were you place the whole of the template

Sorry, you are correct - you don't need to cover as much of the target unit as possible with Blast weapons (had Templates in mind!), although the point still stands that you are not able to target Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures with Blast weapons.

Yeah sorry my mistake, I was reading it wrong, you can target them as long as they aren't the target of that makes sense lol like the whole clipping thing.

However FMC/Flyers CAN be hit by flamer weapons IF the template hits the base IF you are targetting another unit

Also you can fire blasts at FMC if the blast has the Skyfire rule.

commander dante wrote:
However FMC/Flyers CAN be hit by flamer weapons IF the template hits the base IF you are targetting another unit

flyers cannot be hit by any kind of blast/template weapons whatsoever.

Template and Blast weapons, and any other attacks that don’t roll To Hit, cannot hit Zooming Flyers.

@vector strike
It does not say anywhere in the FMC section of the BRB that they cannot.
Under the rule "hard to hit" they don't not say that FMC can't be hit.
As where in the FLYERS section of the BRB under the same rule "hard to hit" they add that flyers can't be hit.

So by the rule flying vehicle can't be hit but FMC can.

Dman137 wrote:
@vector strike
It does not say anywhere in the FMC section of the BRB that they cannot.
Under the rule "hard to hit" they don't not say that FMC can't be hit.
As where in the FLYERS section of the BRB under the same rule "hard to hit" they add that flyers can't be hit.

So by the rule flying vehicle can't be hit but FMC can.

That's why I did only say flyers, not FMC, when I quoted that guy.

My apologies.

Dman137 wrote:
My apologies.

No probs. I want all the help to down FMCs. Until Tau get one, I hope all FMCs rot in hell! (Nurgle ones already do that, so they're fine with it,I think)

unlike flyers, FMC are not immune to blasts/templates.

if swooping they can only be snapshotted, but you can scatter on them from nearby targets.

 Vector Strike wrote:

Dman137 wrote:
My apologies.

No probs. I want all the help to down FMCs. Until Tau get one, I hope all FMCs rot in hell! (Nurgle ones already do that, so they're fine with it,I think)

I hate nurgle flying, black mace, prince.. Then again I hate all FMC lol

So if obliterators happen to discover the mysterious objective for sky fire hen they could target a flyrant w plasma cannons? That would be just really awesome!

Malathrim wrote:
So if obliterators happen to discover the mysterious objective for sky fire hen they could target a flyrant w plasma cannons? That would be just really awesome!

Probably still better off going with the lascannons in any case

This and the fact that Swooping Monstrous Creatures can get a cover save from terrain are two things I really with GW would FAQ. It really bugs me they've let these two issues sit for so long without clarifying.

Dman137 wrote:

 Vector Strike wrote:

Dman137 wrote:
My apologies.

No probs. I want all the help to down FMCs. Until Tau get one, I hope all FMCs rot in hell! (Nurgle ones already do that, so they're fine with it,I think)

I hate nurgle flying, black mace, prince.. Then again I hate all FMC lol

Hahaha, funnily enough I love mine

Nurgle would cease to sell models. GW cannot have that.