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The idead here is to build a really strong cc list. No autarch with banshee mask, I know but I did not have the points and he only helps the one squad anyway. Notice to that I'm not using any flyers. This is a pure foot list that has its drawbacks and strengths. I know crimson death is good ... but this list negates all the anti-AA and anti vehicle my opponent brings. He has to instead chew through my troops. I have 65 models on the table - all of which are credible threats.


CC Eldar 1850

Guardian Stormhost (946)
farseer singing spear, spirit stones of anath’lan
3x 8 storm guardians, 2 fusion guns, 2 power swords, warlock
3 vyper, dual shuriken cannons
3 vaul’s wrath, D-cannons, warlock
3 war walkers, dual scatter lasers

Aspect host (510)
10 scorpions, exarch, scorpion’s claw
2x 10 banshees, exarch, executioner

Living legends (390 )
2x avatar

-Weapons upgrades on storm guardians are all free (both fusion and power swords)
-Vypers, vauls and walkers have preferred enemy when shooting at anything within 12” of one of the storm guardian squads
-Everything has guaranteed 6” run
- Aspects have WS5, re-roll failed morale, pinning and fear tests
- Everything within 12” of the avatar has fearless, rage and furious charge
-You have 7 WC plus D6 to cast runes of fate and runes of battle ... maybe divination if you want prescience?

Sticking to the theme ... anyway to make it better?

I would cut back on the guardian host a little (do you really need that many Warlocks). Then to get into combat MSU is king. You want your opponent to waste firepower overkilling small units, so I'd like to see at least 2 Aspect Hosts with 3 five man units in each.

You don't need two Avatars, 1 will suffice if you have target saturation. Wraithlords and Wraithknights are particularly good for this. Knights provide a more immediate threat by being faster which helps keep pressure off the Avatar and other elements.

Cutting the Warlocks, then dropping the Walkers and Vipers down 1 would enable you to swap the 2nd Avatar for 2 Wraithknights. Which would also up your ranged AT to ensure your Banshees and Scorpions can get at the embarked infantry.

I do need the warlocks - they up my WC and allow for decent powers to be cast (eldritch strom, psychic shriek, etc.) I also think conceal is very useful in a cc list. I agree a WK would be nice but I want to avoid them for now. Certainly adding one would not hurt. As for double avatars - well they are easily enough killed and if I want to spread out - which I do - the second avatar is useful. Now double aspect host is doable but more fragile in some ways ... I know - you will say more targets so less fragile. Maybe. It depends what you are facing.

I think your advie is decent but I'm not sure it will improve the list that much. I would need to test it out.

The problem with shrouding is it is cast on units that don't need it. If anyone is shooting at your guardians you should be happy or in a positions where you've already lost. In neither case is shrouding useful. That is thge issue. With the spirit stone you should be OK for Warp Charge but this list doesn't win on psychic powers it wins by getting into combat. All my advice would help you achieve that.

So what about this then ...

Guardian Stormehost (651)
farseer singing spoear spirit stones of anath’lan
3x 8 storm guardians, 2 fusion guns, 2 power swords
vyper, dual shuriken cannons
3 vaul’s wrath, D-cannons, warlock, singing spear
war walker, dual scatter lasers

Aspect host (510)
10 scorpions, exarch, scorpion’s claw
2x 10 banshees, exarch, executioner

Wraith Construct 295
wraith knight, wraith cannons

Living legends (390 )
2x avatar

Still keeping my 2 avatars, lol.

Looks better the Aspect Host should still be MSU.

Try This?

3 x Guardian Stormehost (1458)
farseer, naked
3x 8 storm guardians, 2 fusion guns, 2 power swords
1x vyper, dual shuriken cannons
2x Shadow Weaver
1x war walker, dual scatter lasers

Living legends (390 )
2x avatar

1848 pts

I think you should run an aspect host instead of the third stormhost. That way you get the auto 6 inch run and some more utility. My suggestion for that would be Scorpions, Banshee's, and Spears or a second of those mentioned before.