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Hey,

I am starting this thread to canvas for ideas and concepts on continuing to play Warhammer with the setting and rules BEFORE AoS.

Basically, what are YOU doing to remain a Warhammer player (or just a mass, rank and file wargame player)?

Here is my plan.
1. Play using the CORE rules of 6/7th edition. - I favor troops and warmachines without the OTT Heroes and Immense Beasts that reflect in some of the 8th ed rules.
2. Convert/Cherry Pick some of the 8th edition rules to allow the newer models to be used (for Example, Monstrous Cavalry). Convert the rules backwards if needed.
3. Backfill my armies with the existing ranges while I can (before they go OOP) - full retail if need be, but eBay, Swap preferred.

Since I have plenty of rules and background to the Old World, and all the rules I need, my group won't find this a problem.


So what are YOU doing to keep playing Warhammer you prefer?

I'm actually doing EXACTLY what you are.

Share with me what you do with monstrous cav for 7th ed.
I prefer the less random sets of the game, but love mournfang... if I could use mournfang in 7th ed, I would be so happy

Thanks
austin

Wait, aren't 6th/7th the Herohammer editions? Or were those older editions?
Are we talking about the same 8th edition? The one I play, monsters don't see play at all because they suck in the core rules (mostly due to infantry and warmachines being OTT powerful in 8th)

Seems like you'd be better off just playing 8th?

I hated 8th.
games got too big.

6th/7th were the streamlined tournament editions. Almost nothing was random

Thanks
austin

Currently transitioning to KoW. I guess it will take 5-8 months until we fully phased out 8th. Comped 8th is a solid ruleset, but it still is an outdated system that's no longer getting updates. KoW needs little to no adjustments for competitive play and really streamlines WHFB. First feedback was very positive, looking forward to the KoW 2.0.

I play KOW regularly.
it's a great game

Thanks
Austin

As a 2nd ed. 40k player I have to say it is hard to continue playing an old edition. Even if people prefer it over the new, they will still play the newest version. Maybe now that WHFB no longer exists it will be easier, but the players will still fragment into their preferred editions, just as Epic has continued but with 3 or 4 different games being played.
In a perfect world everyone would move over to Armies of Arcana, but it's no longer supported so that won't happen. So I'm hoping Kings of War will become the new go-to fantasy game.

 obithius wrote:
As a 2nd ed. 40k player I have to say it is hard to continue playing an old edition. Even if people prefer it over the new, they will still play the newest version. Maybe now that WHFB no longer exists it will be easier, but the players will still fragment into their preferred editions, just as Epic has continued but with 3 or 4 different games being played.
In a perfect world everyone would move over to Armies of Arcana, but it's no longer supported so that won't happen. So I'm hoping Kings of War will become the new go-to fantasy game.

40k and Fantasy are different tho.

Wher ei 40k Almost every new edition is somewhat better or close to the older ones (2nd was terrible IMO).

But Fantasy, some editions are clearly bad, (like 8th), I loved 6th, 7th was ok, played a few in 8th and Sold my Main army and never looked back, AoS is getting me more into now tho.

 obithius wrote:
As a 2nd ed. 40k player I have to say it is hard to continue playing an old edition. Even if people prefer it over the new, they will still play the newest version. Maybe now that WHFB no longer exists it will be easier, but the players will still fragment into their preferred editions, just as Epic has continued but with 3 or 4 different games being played.
In a perfect world everyone would move over to Armies of Arcana, but it's no longer supported so that won't happen. So I'm hoping Kings of War will become the new go-to fantasy game.

It looks like KOW is becoming THE game.
So many people are already switching.

Thanks
austin

 Redbad wrote:
I hated 8th.
games got too big.

6th/7th were the streamlined tournament editions. Almost nothing was random

Thanks
austin

8th also had massive rules holes in it and run amuck monsterous infantry.

we play 8th with a couple house rules here and there and its honestly perfect. Now we know there will be no 9th maybe add a few more. easy

 tenebre wrote:
we play 8th with a couple house rules here and there and its honestly perfect. Now we know there will be no 9th maybe add a few more. easy

Maybe you could share some of those house rules with us?
Or make a video about them?

Thanks
Austin

I just ebay'd a 6th and 7th edition and with my 8th edition book will be making house rules set. but i probably will play mantic 2ed when it comes out

I won't quote a lot of what I've seen so far here, but here are a few answers I have.

1. IMHO, 6th edition was the high-water mark of WHFB. Clean and easy, no magic cards. Designed for unambiguous play in Tournaments really (as someone mentioned already) The crossover to 7th is just to bring in all the army books written in 2007-2009. It also gives me all the FAQ / Rules Clarification stuff.
2. I WILL bring in 8th for the really awesome deeper models (Daemons of Chaos provided enough reason with all the newer models that are just so sexy. Blight Kings, Drones, Demigryphs (spelling??).
3. FREEZING our rules at this level won't be too much a problem with us. I am not likely to get many in-store pickup games, or go to tournaments. In fact, I am carrying most of the weight of play in my group since I have most of the toys! I will probably host game days at my place and encourage my guys to put together more stuff that they like. Worth mentioning that I am middle-aged and an Old Fart, so YMMV.
4. I will take a look at KoW just to have a game for convention-play if the urge strikes. It is affordable enough, although the Mantic Minis are just not up to snuff... YET.

Monstrous Cavalry - I am either going to ADD the STOMP rule to all the older books, or just drop it altogether. Not sure about all the other rules, but I will also allow characters to join units and fight as part of that unit if they are the same class (infantry, cavalry, monstrous, etc).

Keep this going, need more ideas!
Thanks

For me my situation is really easy, I live in an area where most are too poor to afford GW games in general, and since I have plenty of minis and rules from over the years I am that option for those wishing to play and there is no problem finding players wanting to enjoy miniature games.

8th is the edition I will stick with, I have zero plans to give age of ikea s-hit a try, at best I will buy what remaining needed plastic daemons come out but that would have happened regardless of aos or not, I need a plastic keeper of secrets and a great unlcean one, along with fiends if they come out since they are excellent in 8th.

Nobody here has problems with using older rules and I have doubts many worldwide who wish to play warhammer as it has always been will either, a community will remain alive just as it did for some specialist games.

I have no idea what will happen with aos if it will flop or not, I have doubts though it will do as well as what GW wants it to, my main goal right now will be hunting down a few troops types that I may need in future otherwise I'm set for life for oldhammer.

What will probably happen is some people in north america may start running oldhammer tournaments or weekends and a small but dedicated community will grow or survive with maybe rules updates that the community agrees upon.

I will continue to play paint and enjoy warhammer fantasy battle and ignore whatever this crap is now.

I'm giving some thought to buying up rulebooks for an older edition of WHFB, since a lot of people around here have the models and are invested in the background fluff.

I see some people recommending 6e and 7e - what are the major differences between 6th and 7th edition? Is 7th just an "updated" version (sort of like 40k's 4th edition compared to 3rd), or is there a compelling reason to play 6th?

I will be sticking with 8th edition, just tried AoS and it is horrid, such a poor attempt at a game. I can only assume their tea boy came up with the idea.

One thing though now it is unsupported does that mean rules can be acquired online? Would like to try out the end of times stuff and get all the army books to aid future play.

Yeah, I'm gonna stick with 8th. Hate the new background, hate the new rules, and I ain't really happy with GW in general right now.

Daston wrote:

One thing though now it is unsupported does that mean rules can be acquired online?

Not legally, but new GW rules have always been available very quickly after release.

So here is my plan

Step 1: play 8th edition fantasy
Step 2: there is no step 2

Hehe seriously I like 8th edition, so do my friends and so does everyone at my flgs (especially the owner) I mainly play at my house with some tournaments or friendly games at my flgs so I'm sticking with 8th exactly the way it is.

Might play AoS a few times to see if I like it but I like my rank and file ratmen

I had another thread going similar to this one, but basically I'm more than happy to stay in the Old World and play ANY edition of 5th, 6th, 7th, or 8th edition Warhammer Fantasy.

Personally, what I'm worried about is the WFB community splintering away. The majority of us played 8th edition up till a week ago and now you have some continuing on with 8th, some playing AoS, and some migrating over to KoW. Unfortunately, I think that I'll probably be playing in my last WFB tournament of 8th edition this weekend at Buckeye Battles. I have a number of friends out on the west coast heading up next weekend to San Francisco to play in the Quake City Rumble and that will more than likely be their last 8th edition WFB tourney as well.

It's a sad time for some of us Warhammer players who have basically ate, drank and slept the WFB hobby for the last 20-30 years. I'm going to do my best to continue to organize and play WFB games and maybe if enough of us can band together, we can keep the candle going. One thing though, is that I don't think those of us that continue to play WFB can really be picky to favor one edition over another when it comes to finding games. If there's a club/group in your area going back to play 6th/7th edition, we should support that. If there is a group starting a campaign for 8th, we should be supporting that as well. Everyone has their favorite edition, but it's not about what edition of WFB you play anymore. It's about what are you willing to play and support the WFB community to keep the ball rolling?

A thriving WFB community can do two things. The first is that if the market is there, the hope is that another gaming company can pick up the slack where GW dropped off and build a game very close to WFB and gain an instant following. The other is that just maybe a thriving WFB community that continues without GW will send a message to GW that they made a huge mistake in abandoning WFB.

BTW- I think the first thing we need is our own dedicated WFB forum since the Dakka ones are now specific to AoS as is the Warhammer Forum.

Thoughts?

I am also interested in this. Having not played warhammer since 6th edition due to lack of opponents, I now finally have an opportunity to play and AoS swoops in...

From what I've seen in dakka so far, it seems like most players are split between 8th and 6th/7th, with slightly more for 8th in my experience. Could someone (or multiple people) make a case for whatever edition they prefer? I'm curious as to why people prefer one vs the other.

EDIT: I've also seen people suggest playing 7th edition with 8th edition army books.

8th is the best of the bunch but it needs a few adjustments in regards to magic (and a few other smaller areas) as that's too strong right out of the books. Don't play with End Times rules. They horribly throw all balance overboard.

7th also is a very good ruleset...maybe even on par with 8th. More tactical, but very strong artillery. Magic is better.

6th is herohammer. Boring and too character-centric.