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Let's say some Tomb blades are firing at Ravenwing bikers with Gauss blasters (Str 5 AP4) and nebulascopes (Ignores Cover). Do the Ravenwing bikes' shenanigans still confer a re-rollable 2+ save (due to only being AP4)? Or does the ignore cover option force a regular 3+ armor save?
   
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 Sautek Supreme wrote:

Let's say some Tomb blades are firing at Ravenwing bikers with Gauss blasters (Str 5 AP4) and nebulascopes (Ignores Cover). Do the Ravenwing bikes' shenanigans still confer a re-rollable 2+ save (due to only being AP4)? Or does the ignore cover option force a regular 3+ armor save?


That depends.
What are these re-rollable 2+ shenanigans?

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The shenanigans of using a darkshroud speeder to confer stealth on a bikes' jink save.
   
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Ignores cover fully removes any cover that a enemy has, even if the AP is not enough to ignore the save. AP and cover do not interact at all.

Ignores Cover special rule:
"Cover saves cannot be taken against Wounds, glancing hits, or penetration hits caused by weapons with the Ignores Cover special rule."

I'm assuming the 2+ rerollable is a cover save from their jink+shroud. The marines would be stuck with their normal 3+ Armor Save.

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I''m pretty sure Ravenwing allows to re-roll Jink saves.

And since Jink is a Cover Save which Tomb Blades ignore, you'll use the non-rerollable armour save.

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Correct, I was playing DA and my 2 HelDrakes made quick work of the Ravenwing for this reason.

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