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Not sure whether I'm reading this correctly... in the BRB, it says "Some grenades can be used to make shooting attacks or attacks in the Fight sub-phase, albeit to different effect. Only one grenade (of any type) can be thrown by a unit per phase". Two paragraphs down, talking about grenades that can be used against vehicles, etc, in close combat, it says "A model can use such a grenade as a Melee weapon, but can only ever make one attack, regardless of the number of Attacks on its profile or any bonuses".

By "thrown", do they mean "Shooting attack" (or "attack in the Shooting Phase")? Does that not apply when using grenades in the Fight sub-phase (in close combat)?

Specifically, when a unit of Tankbustas enters close combat with a vehicle, can each model use a Tankbusta Bomb attack, or just one per phase?

Yes, when a grenade can be thrown it has a shooting weapon profile, and when it can be used in combat it has a combat weapon profile with the "Grenade" effect limiting the model using it to one attack rather than the usual profile+bonus number.

Thanks! Guess that means Tankhammers are pretty much useless... giving up a rokkit for an extra CC attack, at AP 3 rather than 1, and paying 15pts per model? Meh.

Toniork wrote:
Thanks! Guess that means Tankhammers are pretty much useless... giving up a rokkit for an extra CC attack, at AP 3 rather than 1, and paying 15pts per model? Meh.

Well, technically the advantage is you can use it against more than just vehicles and MCs, which meltabombs are restricted to.

But... yeah. Tankhammers are still useless. Why give up a rokkit launcher for 15pts?

When a unit is in melee every model can attack with grenades/meltabombs/tankbustabombs.

They get 1 attack with the bomb per model.

Colehkxix wrote:
When a unit is in melee every model can attack with grenades/meltabombs/tankbustabombs.

They get 1 attack with the bomb per model.

But only melta bombs can only be used against vehicles and MC.


The tank hammer while only S8 ap 3 can make full attack profiles plus charge and might be effective against light vehicles especially since there is a lower chance of causing an explodes result. This is just another way of thinking about it. I have killed over half my tank bustas before by causing the vehicle to explode.

mhalko1 wrote:

Colehkxix wrote:
When a unit is in melee every model can attack with grenades/meltabombs/tankbustabombs.

They get 1 attack with the bomb per model.

But only melta bombs can only be used against vehicles and MC.


The tank hammer while only S8 ap 3 can make full attack profiles plus charge and might be effective against light vehicles especially since there is a lower chance of causing an explodes result. This is just another way of thinking about it. I have killed over half my tank bustas before by causing the vehicle to explode.

Well, yeah, I didn't mean the Tankhammer had useless stats... but considering you give you a S8 AP3 ranged weapon (the model's ONLY ranged weapon, too) for a S8 AP AP3 close combat weapon, and paying 15pts for the swap, too...

mhalko1 wrote:

Colehkxix wrote:
When a unit is in melee every model can attack with grenades/meltabombs/tankbustabombs.

They get 1 attack with the bomb per model.

But only melta bombs can only be used against vehicles and MC.


The tank hammer while only S8 ap 3 can make full attack profiles plus charge and might be effective against light vehicles especially since there is a lower chance of causing an explodes result. This is just another way of thinking about it. I have killed over half my tank bustas before by causing the vehicle to explode.

Only half? That's good! For years the majority of my dead Orks (5th Ed.) came from exploding opponents vehicles. And of course plenty from my Orks' transports exploding! Good ol Ramshackle, I miss you!