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[Post New] 2015/07/10 11:57:55
    Subject: [500] - Khorne Daemonkin - Starting a new army
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Hi, I'm interested in Starting a khornate army. How about this for the first 500? The goal is to create a very fast list that will get into melee by turn 2.

Herald on Juggernaut
2x8 bloodletters
5 Fłesh hounds
3 chaos spawn

That leaves me pts for som upgrades. The Herald will go with the hounds, scout into cover midtable and then be ready to assault.

And a question; how hard is it getting 8 blood points and summon the thirster? Of course in 500 pts it isn't that realistic. I want to know hos long I can wait before I buy a bloodthirster since I am on a limited budget. I will build a deamon prince pretty soon anyway.

I would also like some ideas how to expand to 750 and 1000 pts for inspiration.

   
[Post New] 2015/07/10 12:45:24
    Subject: [500] - Khorne Daemonkin - Starting a new army
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I think your going to have a hard time getting the bloodletters into combat. Maybe buy a couple rhinos instead of the spawn. Then you could double the number of hounds, who are the real workforce of this list, and upgrade one of each units bloodletters to a bloodreaper. Just my $.02.
"Because the Wolves kill cleanly, and we do not. They also kill quickly, and we have never done that, either. They fight, they win, and they stalk back to their ships with their tails held high. If they were ever ordered to destroy another Legion, they would do it by hurling warrior against warrior, seeking to grind their enemies down with the admirable delusions of the 'noble savage'. If we were ever ordered to assault another Legion, we would virus bomb their recruitment worlds; slaughter their serfs and slaves; poison their gene-seed repositories and spend the next dozen decades watching them die slow, humiliating deaths. Night after night, raid after raid, we'd overwhelm stragglers from their fleets and bleach their skulls to hang from our armour, until none remained. But that isn't the quick execution the Emperor needs, is it? The Wolves go for the throat. We go for the eyes. Then the tongue. Then the hands. Then the feet. Then we skin the crippled remains, and offer it up as an example to any still bearing witness. The Wolves were warriors before they became soldiers. We were murderers first, last, and always!" —Jago Sevatarion

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[Post New] 2015/07/11 07:43:44
    Subject: Re:[500] - Khorne Daemonkin - Starting a new army
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A good idea! Rhinos are always useful when the army grows as well. I never even thought about letters in rhinos since I'm used to the csm codex.

So the rhinos comes from fast attack choices? But can csm and zerkers still take rhinos as dedicated transports that doesnt count towards fast attack? I'm away from my book right now.

Champs for the letters and rhinos will mean more blood tithe pts as well.

Thanks for your good advice!

   
[Post New] 2015/07/11 08:33:47
    Subject: [500] - Khorne Daemonkin - Starting a new army
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Look like a decent start. I wouldn't bother with the bloodthirster yet. Feel no pain is more useful.

(Also you have no characters eligible to turn into a bloodthirster iirc)


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You want to mix in some anti tank somehow. The hound /bike formation is a good way of getting mobile meltaguns.

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[Post New] 2015/07/12 12:17:03
    Subject: Re:[500] - Khorne Daemonkin - Starting a new army
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Yes the hound and bike formation seems cool when I want to expand. I settled for this for a start.

Herald (juggernaut, loci of wrath)
- lots of flesh hound attacks

2x8 Bloodletters (each with bloodreaper) + 2 Rhinos
- embarked or run behind for mobile cover?

8 Flesh hounds
-hopefully blessed by having sacred number

Can someone help me understand formations and their benefits.. lets say I will play a 1000 pts game and have this list.

Herald
2x8 letters
1 unit possesed
8 hounds
2 unit of bikers
2 extra rhinos

So the herald, letters and possesed are primary and slaughtercult, getting that formations benefits. And the hounds and bikes my secondary formation gorepack with benefits. But I guess it would'nt be legal with just two extra rhinos then.. they cant form a detachment on their own and it will be too many fast attack choices?

I know I can get around it with for example a zerker unit and buy them as dedicated transports.

And if I buy a soul grinder I will also lose out on the slaughtercult benefits? Same thinking regarding the rhinos.






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[Post New] 2015/07/12 13:53:43
    Subject: [500] - Khorne Daemonkin - Starting a new army
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne






If you play a soul grinder it will be part of the slaughter cult as a war engine, no need of extra CAD, but the rhinos are not war engines. You would need another 2 troops and 1 hq as a CAD to field 2 rhinos. I normally deep strike my blood letters. I start with 1 unit inside a land raider with skulltaker and an icon at 1500 point games. Keep 2 units in reserve, one of them with an instrument so they both come together and deep strike without scatter. Get the tactical trait for your warlord to re roll reserves and nearly always they come in at turn two


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As for summoning a bloodthirster, its not worthed. At 1500 points games, I sometimes have bloodthites enough at turn 2-3. He must arrive swooping at turn 3-4, changes to gliding at turn 4-5, charges at turn 6-7. Is it worthed?
I use my points on FnP all the time! If I have 7 points in a turn I take FnP AND +1 attack on everyone. That hurts a lot

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[Post New] 2015/07/15 16:59:19
    Subject: Re:[500] - Khorne Daemonkin - Starting a new army
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Is it possible for me to just play a CAD formation with my 500 list, buying the rhinos from fast attack? And not being unbound? My gaming group does not allow unbound armies.

I'm also thinking about losing the rhinos for 3 bikers with 2 meltaguns.. and deepstrike the letters. To have something to deal with 2+ and vehicles. Opinions?

   
 
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