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Hi!

Since new marines came out I have encountered few times the SM Command Bikers Nightmare

It is
Chapter master+SM bike+Burning Blade+Storm Shield

Commpany Squad 5 Marines with apothecary all on bikes with Strom Shield, Power Axe, Grav Gun, Melta Bombs

With Iron Hand tactics it is unit with 3+ Inv, 4+ FNP lead by hero with same save + IWND. And since they are bikesr they are pretty fast.
They are leathal in CC, super hard to kill, often tank with hero, and have fire power greate fire power due to grav guns and relentless.

Do you have any reliable way to stop them? I know that it is posible to tarap them, but it is not that easy because of they mobility and large S5 AP2 attacks in CC.
So I think is there really easier way than just throw at them more units they can kill?

Roknar wrote:
For csm, one of those new Daemon knights of khorne(...)

What are new Deamon Knights of Khorne? I never heard about such a unit.

Before a solution can be determined, we need to know what you play(...)

I play with Necrons, Tau or IG.