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I've been a daemon player since i got into the hobby, and have always liked the idea of allying csm, were it not for their terrible rules. However, with the advent of KDK, I am beginning to feel a little worried about my 6th edition daemons codex not getting updated and instead being rolled into csm-ally codices(daemonkins). Also a bit worried they'll skip the CSM codex as well in favour of the conglomerate books, which would kill their flavour and individualism. Obviously there's no worries about running allied lists with these books, but I would like to retain the ability to write pure csm lists or pure daemons lists.

Do you think that GW will still release a vanilla daemons codex? How about vanilla csm? Would you guys be happy with just 4 daemonkin books and no codex for the individual factions?

Just to be clear, i think KDK is a good book. I just dont like the idea of losing a proper 7th daemon codex, or a proper csm one for that matter. Also, i'm fully aware one can just pick pure daemon units out of the daemonkin books, but they lose access to rewards and instability and warp storm(off the top of my head). I also wouldnt want to mess around with CADs when i need an hq and two troops just to run a seperately marked unit. The loss of characters like kharn from our codices would also be saddening.

I would like to hear some thoughts on this. I've been hesitant to expand my collection further because this is all up in the air at the moment.

Well, if we get codex bland 7.0 and the daemonkin codices are actually decent then I think that would be preferable. But the daemonkin codex we have is not at all what I want.

I am invested in CSM because of the legions, so no legions = no buy. Legion support is already pretty iffy as it is. But if they made it even more hard to do legions then screw csm. And the daemonkin books for that matter.

I really dig the blood tithe system, don't get me wrong. But if they squat legion csm I have no incentive to play csm anymore, even if the books are pretty fun to play. And daemonkin are pretty cool in spite of the lazy treatment they got. And yet, they just don't click with me.
I think the daemonkin codices, if they stay somewhat as tehy are now, would be better of as Faction: Daemons books. One book for each god. The daemons and their moral followers.

Thanks to the many formations and ease of allying I think this would work quite well. Then again, the khorne daemon codex lacks daemon flavour for that. What with no gifts and so on. And of course the lack of characters.

So ideally I would like to see (one or) more CSM/renegades focused books and Daemonkin books with a more heavy focus on daemons.

As for the initial question, I don't know. There were rumours we would be getting a lost and the damned book. If they do that I fear we might get stuck with daemonkin books and neither daemons nor pure csm.
But you never know with GW. I don't like what they did with fantasy and AoS but it does show that they can change some things for the better. So who knows. Maybe the make a whole range of chaos codices over time and everybody gets the codex of their choice.

As faction: daemons books you say? So that i could use hq's and troops in a cad regardless of which of the four books they came from? That's an interesting idea and could work, although i can see alot of grumbling about having to buy 4 books to field the minis you want. Would still leave a bitter taste in my proverbial mouth.

It would be surprising to me if they squatted vanilla daemons, as it apparently is currently top-tier and i imagine it has lots of monetary support. It would seem like a cash grab to force these players to buy 4 books to stay up to date. I cant imagine my 6th edition codex remaining competitive enough to stick to it given the current power creep..

GW's neglect of chaos is saddening. Imo, its one of the biggest strengths of their IP.

Well on the plus side, it would make mono god lists stronger in theory and it would suit the fluff better than a mix of all gods imho. There wouldn't be a daemon incursion without somebody to fuel it fluffwise right? In that sense it would be ultimately better for daemons I think. Of course this is assuming they have have a daemon focus and new units and generally developed as an interesting standalone book. Which isn't true for khorne daemonkin atm.

It could still work for them, as all the daemon models would still be available plus the one new unit. It wouldn't surprise me at all, it wouldn't be the worst of cashgrab moves GW has pulled lol.
It would probably make daemons stronger in that they would forget to block mixed daemon units and marks and what have you lol. So enjoy those daemonettes with hatred and/or rage banners XD

I could be wrong, but I think the majority of people would stick to one god anyway, much like many people stick to one legion now and they don't even have a book. I don't see it being that different to all the IoM books really.
I can see how it would be annoying to buy 4 books for the full daemon experience, but each god would be more flavourful for it.

And dito to the neglect thing. I just mentioned that in a different thread. GW has enough material in chaos to make a n entire line of armies. and as far as I can tell Chaos still sells pretty good in spite of how neglected it is. You'd think they would milk that cow a little for a change.