Switch Theme:

The Bin of Lost Dreams  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in us
Thane of Dol Guldur




At my flgs, there is a bin of used hobby items, where hobbyists sell off everything from cards to books, magazines to models. It's an awesome deal for the buyer; the seller names their price, and the flgs takes a cut when sold. It's the first place I always go when I visit the store, and I have gotten some great deals there over the years. I do admit that I feel like a vulture picking at the bones of someone's once-cherished army, but I figure in the end, the seller wants to sell, and the buyer wants to buy.

What I wonder is:

1) How can this be good for the store? If I am buying a Land Raider for 30 bucks from the used bin, I am not buying a Land Raider new for $75 or whatever they cost these days. I know alot of the money that goes to the seller is probably turned right around and spent at the store, but doesn't this create a lost opportunity for the store to get new items moved from the shelves?

2) How can this be good for the seller? Basically, why wouldn't you just post your stuff on eBay, Craigslist, or an internet forum like this one and get 100% of the sale price for your items?

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/08/01 06:59:08


 
   
Made in us
Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller




Strike Cruiser Vladislav Volkov

1. The store gets a cut of the sale they would not have received otherwise.

2. It's a hell of a lot simpler than listing an item on ebay where you will never get "full retail" anyways unless your item is on sprues or painted to Golden Daemon standards.

   
Made in us
The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar





Upstate, New York

Probably a lot depends on the cut the store takes. As an alternate to e-bay, a reasonable cut is probably similar to shipping costs, without the hassle of boxing stuff up etc. Less worries about things getting lost in the mail, fraud, etc.

As for the lost sale of the NIB product, that’s probably a matter of churn. A store can make money turning over a lot of small things quicker, rather then a few things slower. If they are working on a commission system, they also don’t need to pay to stock the used bin. Stores generally don’t want to have a lot of money tied up in stuff that’s just warming the shelves.

And there is also a decent chance that the LR in the bin was once new on the shelf. So they get money for selling it multiple times.

Having a bin also gets people in the store. Someone might come into the bin, poke around, and then buy something off the shelf, either to go with something they pick up, or because they were inspired while browsing.

(disclaimer, I don’t run a store, so this is just my thoughts. YMMV)

   
Made in us
Legendary Master of the Chapter






1) It draws people to the store. just like table dont really make money but get people to the store


2) for some people its a massive hassle to buy and sale directly.
especially if they dont know how to haggle and stuff. and or they dont know how to use cragbay

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/07/31 17:00:05


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka




Vanished Completely

1) They get a cut of the sale they may not have otherwise made.

It is incorrect to assume someone buying a Used product would be in the position to purchase that product New. This is something I have learned greatly by looking at the Video Game industry, where they do assume every Used sale represents a lost New sale and gripe loudly about how it is killing the business. The problem with this mindset is simple - it completely ignores what drives people to purchase things in the first place! It constantly forget to include factors such as the buyers budget, as many use trade-ins or can only ever afford the discounted price. It over-looks 'spontaneous buyers,' those that are often driven by sales or other cost discounting methods then an actual desire for the product. Other reasons also exist, but they are never accounted for because they all indicate there would be no-sale if it wasn't for these methods of purchase.

Game Workshop stores, that allow the trading of 'Used Models,' have just found a way to profit of a sale they could not have otherwise made.

2) Marketing directly to the intended buyer.

The people who walk into a Game Workshop store are the 'target demographic,' die hard fans that are looking to make additional purchases. Having your product in the physical proximity of the targeted demographic greatly increases the chance of purchase. There is also the physical aspect of it, even in this modern digital world many people still like to go into a store just to see what is available. These people are more likely to purchase the item they have right in front of them, instead of going on-line later to see if they can find it at a better cost. Many stores, not so much Game Stores though, are actually designed to keep the buyer in the store as long as possible as this has been shown to increase the possibility of a sale in and of itself.

In short, people purchase things more often when they are immediately receiving the goods.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/07/31 17:16:23


8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures.  
   
Made in us
Nasty Nob






I would love something like that at my FLGS. Alas, no such luck.

As to the OP's question:
It's good for the store, because it helps generate foot traffic. The store is providing a service for return customers. Return customers are good for business.
It's good for the person selling their items because they don't have to go through the hassle of listing the item for sale on the internet, shipping it, and possibly dealing with returns/lost/stolen merchandise. Not to mention there are some folks who don't have debit/credit cards, or are afraid of The Internets and identity theft. Or maybe their spouse said that they had to get that crap out of the house, now.


My P&M blog: Cleatus, the Scratch-building Mekboy
Successful Swap Trades: 6 
   
Made in us
Thane of Dol Guldur




Incidentally, my flgs is not a GW store, but an independent hobby store.

Closest GW store to me is an hour and a half away. It's the only GW store I've been too. it was a in a small strip mall rental about half the size of a typical Gamestop, no discount, the store had less GW product than my flgs, and I was really given no inspiration whatsoever to make a return visit. I'm actually surprised to hear that some GW stores do business in used items.
   
Made in us
Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge




What's left of Cadia

I wish my gaming store had something like that...

TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
 
   
Made in us
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain






A Protoss colony world

War Kitten wrote:
I wish my gaming store had something like that...

Me too, bro. Me too.

My armies (re-counted and updated on 11/7/24, including modeled wargear options):
Dark Angels: ~16000 Astra Militarum: ~1200 | Imperial Knights: ~2300 | Leagues of Votann: ~1300 | Tyranids: ~3400 | Stormcast Eternals: ~5000 | Kruleboyz: ~3500 | Lumineth Realm-Lords: ~700
Check out my P&M Blogs: ZergSmasher's P&M Blog | Imperial Knights blog | Board Games blog | Total models painted in 2024: 40 | Total models painted in 2025: 29 | Current main painting project: Tomb Kings
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
You need your bumps felt. With a patented, Grotsnik Corp Bump Feelerer 9,000.
The Grotsnik Corp Bump Feelerer 9,000. It only looks like several bricks crudely gaffer taped to a cricket bat.
Grotsnik Corp. Sorry, No Refunds.
 
   
Made in us
Bounding Assault Marine




United States

Plus it gets you in the store. And hopefully helps build community around the store and area.

2000+

"Can we stop saying CCSM and CSM to just say CSM and SM? I mean really, don't we already know they have a codex? Plus my colon key is broken."  
   
Made in us
Screaming Shining Spear





Northern California

Used model sales don't benefit GW; they have already been purchased and taken off GW's hands, and now that GW no longer owns the model the FLGS (or local GW) can claim 100% of the profit of the sales from used models.

It's a lot easier to sell to someone in person who will either bargain or give you a price upfront for your models that to deal with a middleman online who will end up taking a cut of the profits.

~3000 (Fully Painted)
Coming Soon!
Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be
 
   
Made in gb
Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan





Bristol, England

As a store owner that system sounds pretty bad.
I prefer to buy whatever is on offer outright.
Then I'll split armies, eBay valuable bits, bag up individual units and put on the shop floor, upgrade the paint, fix breakages, strip paint or whatever I feel necessary to achieve best prices.

Oli: Can I be an orc?
Everyone: No.
Oli: But it fits through the doors, Look! 
   
Made in us
Loyal Necron Lychguard





Working on it

I wish my shop had something akin to that, it makes plot of sense when you think about it

<Dynasty> ~10500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~3000pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Admech (TBN) ~3500pts +30k Bots and Ulator

 
   
Made in ca
Ghastly Grave Guard





Canada

That's an interesting spin on things. Most independent gaming stores I've been to will buy your used minis from you and then sell them for a higher price. If I only have $50 and am in the market for a Land Raider ($89 new here in Canada) then that used LR sitting in their display shelf could be the difference between me spending $50 there and me spending nothing.
   
Made in us
Thane of Dol Guldur




There's a slight twist here in regards to my FLGS Used Bin in the OP. The bin doesn't work like I thought it did. I asked a store worker last night, and how it work is, the seller names their price, and when the item is sold, the store doesn't take a cut, but rather loads the money onto a gift card for store credit. So I guess 100% of the money on the sale is going back into the store. Not as good for sellers who want cash, obviously. Still awesome for buyers.





This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/08/01 15:22:17


 
   
Made in se
Servoarm Flailing Magos






Metalica

 jasper76 wrote:
There's a slight twist here in regards to my FLGS Used Bin in the OP. The bin doesn't work like I thought it did. I asked a store worker last night, and how it work is, the seller names their price, and when the item is sold, the store doesn't take a cut, but rather loads the money onto a gift card for store credit. So I guess 100% of the money on the sale is going back into the store. Not as good for sellers who want cash, obviously. Still awesome for buyers.







That's fantastic for the shop, and assuming the seller wanted something from the shop anyway, he's getting 100% of his sale's worth. I feel like it's a win all around. If you are not into anything from the shop, go ebay.

 
   
 
Forum Index » 40K General Discussion
Go to: