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Do FMC come in swooping when summoned via something like Possession?

When you are rolling for psychic powers do you have to declare how many spells you are trying to learn from each discipline or do you roll on the table until you get what you want and then able to switch to another discipline?

Daemons get the primaris for their alignment automatically; does that mean if I take another discipline they get the primaris for that too since I am only really rolling from that table?

Can you source this for me too? Thanks!

The conjuration rules state specifically that they Deep Strike and are counted as having come from reserves. So they must count as swooping

You can roll one die at a time, as nothing states you must do otherwise.

Primaris is normally free if all powers come from a single source.

Chaos powers only require you to take a single power to gain it.

Thus you are no longer eligible for another free primaris.

When rolling for powers declare which tree it is for, once you roll then you can pick to either take the primaris or the power you rolled. You can pick from any tree it says they are eligible for.

The answers for that are clear in the Chaos codex and the brb.


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nosferatu1001 wrote:
The conjuration rules state specifically that they Deep Strike and are counted as having come from reserves. So they must count as swooping

You can roll one die at a time, as nothing states you must do otherwise.

Doesn't really say deep strike reserves and this is a hotly debated subject.

Your better off summoning a demon prince without wings so you can avoid the debate and actually get to use the damn thing before the game ends.

 Konrax wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
The conjuration rules state specifically that they Deep Strike and are counted as having come from reserves. So they must count as swooping

You can roll one die at a time, as nothing states you must do otherwise.

Doesn't really say deep strike reserves and this is a hotly debated subject.

Your better off summoning a demon prince without wings so you can avoid the debate and actually get to use the damn thing before the game ends.

That issue is only for Khorne Daemonkin summoning. Malefic summoning is what nosferatu is referring to and is clear (and you can't summmong a DP through conjurations)

 CrownAxe wrote:

 Konrax wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
The conjuration rules state specifically that they Deep Strike and are counted as having come from reserves. So they must count as swooping

You can roll one die at a time, as nothing states you must do otherwise.

Doesn't really say deep strike reserves and this is a hotly debated subject.

Your better off summoning a demon prince without wings so you can avoid the debate and actually get to use the damn thing before the game ends.

That issue is only for Khorne Daemonkin summoning. Malefic summoning is what nosferatu is referring to and is clear (and you can't summmong a DP through conjurations)

My apologies I thought he was for kdk

 ViPER wrote:
Do FMC come in swooping when summoned via something like Possession?

When you are rolling for psychic powers do you have to declare how many spells you are trying to learn from each discipline or do you roll on the table until you get what you want and then able to switch to another discipline?

Daemons get the primaris for their alignment automatically; does that mean if I take another discipline they get the primaris for that too since I am only really rolling from that table?

Can you source this for me too? Thanks!

Yes any FMC that you bring on using Conjuration powers is Swooping because they are treated as coming from Reserves.

To generate powers you roll one die at a time nominating which discipline you're rolling on first. If your psyker has more than one ML you can choose to generate your subsequent powers from the same or a different discipline depending on whether you got a decent power/the one you were hoping for.

If you generate all your powers from one discipline e.g. Biomancy then you get the Primaris for free through Psychic Focus. You also automatically know the Primaris from their patrons discipline through Chaos Focus. This is a point of contention for some however; in practice it's not usually a big deal but it's probably best to discuss with your opponent beforehand. Essentially the interpretations boil down to whether you consider automatically knows = generate or not. Just be aware that whichever way you play it has implications for marked CSM sorcerers and their powers.