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This list nearly single handedly tabled a 3700 pt list in a 2v2 yesterday...

This list is reportedly ITC legal for the LVO. I disagree because of the two lords of war. But here it is. Deployment should be obvious except Lynx (normally reserved). Any ideas if there is an ork combo that can face this monster?

+++ (1847pts) +++

++ Eldar Craftworlds (Formation Wraith Host) ++

Spiritseer [Shuriken Pistol, Witchstaff]

5x Wraithguard [5x Wraithcannon]
5x Wraithguard [5x Wraithcannon]

Wraithknight [Scatter laser, Suncannon and Scattershield]

Wraithlord [Flamer, Shuriken catapult]


++ Deldar (Covenite Coterie Detachment) ++

Haemonculus [2x Close combat weapon, Splinter Pistol, Webway portal]
Haemonculus [2x Close combat weapon, Splinter Pistol, Webway portal]

Wracks [5x Wracks]
Wracks [5x Wracks]

Cronos [Spirit Probe]


++ Eldar CAD ++

Autarch [Shuriken pistol]

Windriders [3x Windrider with twin-linked Shuriken catapult]
Windriders [3x Windrider with twin-linked Shuriken catapult]

Lynx * [Pulsar, Shuriken cannon]

You need 3 wraithguard

And what's up with the cronos? Seems like a waste of points that will only benefit 12 models...

The cronos gives FNP 4+ to the Wraithknight and Wraithguard per my opponent....



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Also what do you think about this ork list in an all comers (LasVegas Open)

BullyBoyz:
-3x5 Meganobz (1x Killsaw) in truck with ram and shoota

Firebase Cadre
-Riptide (Ion and Stims)
-3x3 Missilesides (EWO and 6 Markerdrones)
-3x3 Railsides (EWO)

Knights:
-Knight-Lancer

You still need 3 squads of wraithguard to be able to take the formation

Yes. I see that now thanks!

I don't see the value of the Wraithhost here. It's primary benefit is yielding Battle Focus to those that wouldn't normally have it - but by utilizing a WWP DE component, you either A) don't need it or B) have your squad contaminated by DE and can't use it. This being the case I'd merge the Host into your CAD, severing the deadweight Wraithlord in favor of, say, Venoms for your Wracks.

Personally I find the Suncannon the worst of the three choices for the Wraithknight. If you're running ITC I would highly endorse the Ghostglaive, followed by a recently upgraded Wraithcannon.

Coincidentally I don't understand how this is ITC legal, either. But that's neither here nor there if people let you play it with double LoW.

Its not legal. Thats been clarified.

This is actual my teamates list that i play against as orks and get tabled by T3 every game it seems. I think the wraith host was an avenue to get two LoW only. Likely he will go CAD (or CW equivalent) and just bring the knight and save the wraithlord's, and lynx's points for anti air or obsec.

The viper idea is really good. Those are the 12 shot poison 5 person xports right? Mean mean mean!

What do yall think of adding warwalkers for anti air? Or would you add fliers?


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Oh im not sure its the sun cannon. Its the D-melee weapon that he runs.

I misrepresent myself, I meant the double LoW not the two squads of Wraiths. In either event as long as you understand it matters not.

Venoms* though, not Vypers. Vypers are miserable, Venoms are quite impressive. With double Splinter Cannon, they each pump out 12 BS4 poison (4+) shots which can be extremely helpful - plus they are open topped, I've seen a player or two use this with Ossefactors (sp?) to brutal effect.

On the anti-air question, I never purchase dedicated anti-air. However my local meta typically lacks anything except flying Daemon Princes, so it may not be the best advice to follow. Scatter Lasers en masse can do a lot of damage though, both Warwalkers and Windriders can do this in spades.