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I know it's mainly just a change in color scheme, but I'm curious if there's something in the rules or lore that say a Primary Chapter and its Successor Chapters can't be in the same army.

Example:
2 x Troops
Dark Angels Tactical Squad
Angels of Absolution Tactical Squad

Is that legal, or is it against the rules? Is there any kind of lore that says they can't be in the same army?

Thanks

SG

Successor chapters which use the same chapter tactics are considered identical to the parent as far as the rules are concerned.
So other than a slightly confusing paint job, there's no reason why not.

Thanks!

SG

Yes you can. Just make sure they have the same chapter tactics

If he's playing Dark Angels, he's not using Chapter Tactics to begin with.

In that case it's still fine,

Well, according to the 40K Wiki, the Angels of Absolution have a slightly different belief system that can cause some conflict with the DA, but they have fought beside the DA on several occasions. So, it seems they would be a good option if I wanted to use a succesor chapter.

Again, thanks!

SG

Captyn_Bob wrote:
Successor chapters which use the same chapter tactics are considered identical to the parent as far as the rules are concerned.
So other than a slightly confusing paint job, there's no reason why not.

Just be careful because some of the successors do not have the same Chapter Tactics. In those cases, if in the same detachment, one of the Chapter Tactics will be ignored. They all can still be in the same army with different Tactics, just different Detachments.

Looking in the DA codex, I don't see any Chapter Tactics mentioned for DA or it's Successor Chapters. Does Chapter Tactics refer to things like detachments and formations or something else?

Thanks

SG

ServiceGames wrote:
Looking in the DA codex, I don't see any Chapter Tactics mentioned for DA or it's Successor Chapters. Does Chapter Tactics refer to things like detachments and formations or something else?

That's because they do not. In lieu of getting Chapter Tactics they get a book that is 80% Codex and 20% WTF and assorted Special Rules. Chapter Tactics is from the Codex Marines book, and Dark Angels are considered a different Faction because of their different book. They can all be painted up to be the same, though so it is good to be aware.

In most cases, you cannot mix Factions within a detachment, so the same concept still applies, though. Blood Angels and Dark Angels will not be in the same Detachment with each other or Imperial Fists. Imperial Fists and Crimson Fists can be in the same Detachment because they both use the same book and have the same Chapter Tactics. Imperial Fists and Black Templars would either have to be in different Detachments to use their separate Tactics, or restrict themselves to one or the other in order to share a Detachment. Blood Angels and Dark Angels can share a Detachment, but either you have Furious Green Marines or you have Stubborn Red Marines, but not both.

As I stated in my previous post, Dark Angels don't have the Chapter Tactics special rule. It is a rule found in Codex Space Marines which allows you to field different chapters (e.g., Ultramarines, Iron Hands, Imperial Fists, etc.) with a single codex.

 Ghaz wrote:
As I stated in my previous post, Dark Angels don't have the Chapter Tactics special rule. It is a rule found in Codex Space Marines which allows you to field different chapters (e.g., Ultramarines, Iron Hands, Imperial Fists, etc.) with a single codex.

Still, it's one thing they did really stupid with the Puppies and the Angels.

Ultramarines Character joins Imperial Fist unit: "Ah, our Special Skills mean nothing!"
Dark Angels Character joins Imperial Fist unit: "We are Stubborn and most of our Bolters can reroll To-Hit."...?