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So after some thinking I was considering doing a Nurgle/ Slaanesh synergy type list but am kinda drawing a blank after realizing how fast the points add up. I am trying to figure out how to pop transports and hit hard and fast. The main issue is what does chaos have to tie up Death Stars/ soak up a lot of shots? So far I'm stuck but here is what I'm considering:

Lord on Bike MoN, sigil, claw, fist, blight grenades

Lord on MoS Jump pack, dual claws, sigil, meta bombs, brand flamethrower(can't remember name it using codex atm at work.)

3 Mark of Nurgle Obliterators

3-5 Chaos Spawn

5-9 MoN Bikes 2 meltaguns, Icon for raptors/ warp talons

10-15 raptors MoS 2 melta guns, lightning claws, icon of excess

How many models in each squad/ where should I go from here? I'm looking to get a troop of NOise marines excess icon for assault and
champion with flamethrower and power weapon/ dual lightning claws and at least one squad of melta/ plasma Nurgle marines for objective camping/ tank hunting. Need input on squad numbers and what else I should add. Obliterators sound kinda slow so would camp in the backfield but from a lot of tactics I have read chaos needs to get into assault asap since they usually are outgunned.

Since I didn't get any advice, decided to try list on my own. Here goes nothing:

Lord MoN fist claw, bike, sigil, blight grenades

6 plague marines 2 melta guns, power fist,
Rhino with dirge caster and dozer blades

Same

Maulerfiend with tendrils

3 Obliterators Mark of Nurgle

1 Obliterators mark of Nurgle

5 Nurgle Bikers, 2 m.guns 1 fist, icon

5 Spawn Mark of Nurgle

Slanesh lord dual claws, skalithrax, sigil, jump pack

7 Slaanesh Raptors Icon of excess 2 meltas champ m.bombs

1850

Icons deep strike I5 fnp Slaanesh squad where they need to go, lots of assault threats, but then again I've still to learn the rules of 7th...

You can do without the Chaos Spawn. They have no save and no AP. It's a waste of 180points. That's a Heldrake or a Forgefiend or almost any other daemon engine available to you. Shave off 15 points somewhere else and it's a Defiler. There are a lot of things 180 points can do that those Chaos Spawn never will. I run a nurgle list and tried them out myself. They were always one of my most underperforming units. Tactical Marines can smack them down in close combat just through good armor saves.

Spawns alone are not good. However if you used them as 15 wounds for a jugger lord or a nurgle biker lord then they are good.

apeople used to use sorcerer to get Biomancy for iron arm and endurance. They also used telepathy for invisibility.

Okay how about this:

Lord MoN on bike with fist, claw, sigil blight

5 MoN Bikes- 2 melta guns, icon, fist

6 Plague Marines- 2 meltas, fist, chaos boon, icon,
Rhino with dozer blade

Lord with MoS claw, fist, melta bomb, jump pack, sigil, Skalathrax

10 Noise Marines doom siren, melta bombs, power weapon, chaos boon, icon of excess
Rhino dirge and dozer

12 Raptors MoS, Icon of Excess, 2 melta guns, lightning claws champion

Need to fine tune points a little later to make sure I didn't spend too much on vehicles

3x Vindicator with demonic possession

I'd say that you should mainly just focus on using the Nurgle Lord. You aren't going to use your Elite slots anyway, and Objective Secured honestly doesn't matter a lot. Therefore you can just use a few Noise Marine squads to camp on home objectives and make use of them Blastmasters.

I would drop the Slaaneshi Lord and Raptors. Chaos Icons don't function as Locator Beacons anymore, which means you're going to risk scattering a large unit onto an enemy unit and Mishap. The Dimensional Key would provide this ability, though securing a kill may be tricky before second turn to ensure its use for early arrivals. I personally would consider Warp Talons (with MoS) to better serve this role than Raptors to ensure striking first against most loyalist MEQ and possibly Blind targets upon arrival. A Slaaneshi Sorcerer could provide some noteworthy support as well, and would better serve your Noise Marines with sonic weaponry.

Ok, looks like I have some reading on this new edition to do. Be back in about 2 weeks when I have read the rule book new objectives and rules. It's been 2 years

Your best off just focusing on one god mixed god lists don't tend to function well imho

I really don't like to focus on just one God because of how interesting the powers are. I think the dimensional key sounds right up my ally. Played around with some tactics I found online, so one last try before I go with pure Nurgle. If you have any ideas on how many models/ marks/ war gear are needed. (Is going over 100 points in gear legal now?! Can't find limitation besides point sink)


Huron Blackheart

Lord on Palanquin of Nurgle, combat familiar, mark of Nurgle, lightning claw, power fist, brand of Skalathrax, dimensional key, sigil

20 cultists- mark of Nurgle (infiltrate with palanquin)

5 chaos marines

Land Raider with dirge and ???

9 Noise marines, champion siren, dual claws, gift, Icon of Excess



3-6 Obliterators mark of Nurgle

5 Chaos Spawn/ Bikes Mark of Tzeentch/ Nurgle

Lots and lots of raptors

5 warp claws mark of tzeentch/ khorne/ nurgle?
Hmm...any input? I really need to get an army started since I take forever to paint.

It seems as though there's still a lot of uncertainty. The downside is that if current rumors hold any weight, a new CSM book may be released before the end of the year which may force drastic changes to anything determined now. If you have a favorite unit, I recommend focusing on that for the time being and ease into this army.

For army feedback...

Your Nurgle Lord is a huge point sink, and while there is no wargear limitation, remove what's not needed (combat familiar?) I sure hope you keep him away from ID weapons, though it's definitely a unique configuration!

I feel as though Chosen would give you more attacks than Noise Marines if you're willing to go non-Fearless.

Nurgle Bikes are great at T6.

Obliterators, Raptors, and possibly Warp Talons would benefit from the Lord's ability. I would determine their roles.

Well, can't find any previews/ recent rumors besides a fake link to a Xenos game lol so I guess I'll just get started with Huron and paint him up for some solid amount of time as main leader. By December I'll have an army built either way.

He clearly wants to make use of both types of troops, which is fine. If things keep going the way they are though, in the new dex Chaos may lose the good old "special snowflake marines as troops" rule. Dark angels lost their biker and termie troops(even though vanilla marines got to keep their bike troops... WTF GW?!)and BA lost their Assault marine troops as well. Just one thing to keep in mind.

I love both noise marines, and plague marines. They're both great at different things, noise marines bring a hell of alot of dakka, and Pmarines are toughas nails and have poisoned melee atks to mess with MCs and the like. If you're rolling on the boon table you're gonna need to have a spawn or 2 around anyways, you can actually just kitbash them though, it's not that hard. I'm assuming you're getting back into the hobby and looking into starting an army from scratch?

Yes, I am literally starting from scratch, but I am stubborn so refuse to change armies. Chaos was my second army and I've missed it dearly. I have ZERO faith in a new codex release. I had the original necrons and had to wait 5 years for garbage dex, then the updated one finally came but half the models weren't released yet. The Chaos Codex is probably the same, GW should have all armies readjusted by the time a new edition is released, it would probably keep a lot more people interested and more balanced. I'm just going to use this list for fun. Until GW actually releases/leaks pictures I remain skeptical. This is my set list until I build it and get some games in.

Huron Blackheart

Lord with MoS fist, claw, sigil, jump pack, Skalathrax,

8 Noise Marines- 7 ccwChampion with Doom Siren and claw and fist icon of excess, and melta bomb

Rhino with dirge caster, extra armor

Same minus bomb

Rhino

Hell drake reaper cannon
Hell drake reaper cannon
9 raptors icon of excess, fist and claw, 2 melta guns

2Obliterators Mark of Nurgle

2 Obliterators Mark of Nurgle

Edit: BLOOD ANGELS NO LONGER HAVE ASSAULT MARINES AS TROOPS?! Wtf I have no regrets selling my assault army now, GW fails again. I had 60 in 1850

Edit 2: Wow, Necrons even got an update. I guess I'll be starting them next, about time

Many BA players can opt to use the Flesh Tearers formation to use a lot of Jump troops.

For an initial concept it looks okay. I personally wouldn't invest so much into squad champions.

GW has realized they can drop a new codex for every race every year and people will buy it so I think that's what their new business plan is. There's rumors of a new Tau codex and a new Chaos codex, many people have heard this from GW distributors, and it would make sense. They've updated literally every race I think across 6th and 7th. And if you want a competitive army, look no further than Necrons. They're very, very strong right now. Reanimation protocols are insanely strong, you can't even get rid of them with str10