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Hey guys I have a Renegade Krome currently.. debating to buy the Sotar 20/20 because its only $85 on Amazon now. However, I am not sure if theres a big difference between brushes, anyone know?

Thanks!

Any suggestions?

I have friends who have the sotar and some who have the Renegade. Both seem happy with their choice.

I guess it comes down to needle size and ergonomics as to which one is best suited for you.

i had a sotar and got rid of it. The needle size was too small and required me thinning the paint down a lot. Normally i use vallejo model air and game air paints and even those had to be thin. Also if the tips of the paint bottle drop any small parts in it clogged. It clogged a lot. If you have no experience with airbrushed i would not get a sotar. I have no experience with a renegade but heard they were good.

I have switched to a badger patriot and it is much easy to use. I also have a badger crescendo and a model 350 that i use for laquor paint only.

- steve

I have the renegade and the sotar (and the patriot 105).

Short answer: Buy it.

Longer answer:
The sotar is a very fine brush - and has all the challanges that come with it (in ref to steve's comment above).

However, while it indeed is picky about paint - I have found it to be more reliable and less frustrating than my krome, and maybe slightly better at detail work.

The amazon deal is a great buy - and it is a great brush - but also pointed out before - I would NEVER suggest a beginner get any fine brush, as they are incredibly unforgiving for learning on.

Over the years, I have had ....six( ???) airbrushes, and I find my go to brushes are my sotar and my patriot 105, depending upon the job at hand.

it is a great deal on amazon but boy is it a finicky brush. I also was able to do everything i need with the patriot. I did not need the precision that the sotar offered. Also there is a fine detail conversion kit for the patriot if i want to step up to more detail.

steve

Ok sounds like I will just stick with the Krome... i dont need more stress lol

I use the badger line for airbrushing.. some of those paints are very thin to begin with... I wonder if you need to think it for the Sotar...

I dunno maybe I will give it a shot.

Thanks for the help.

Sotar 20/20:
I'm finding it clogs/jams/whatevers far less often than the best of my cheap starter brushes, but I don't have any medium/higher tier brushes with which to compare it.

I've seen them as low on Amazon as maybe 60 bucks around black friday? I think 70-80 is the average there though. If you want it don't wait for the lower price as they tend to sell them out and then not get them back in for months.

You will have to thin your paints more, of course, it has a tiny nozzle tip/needle. You should be able to get a bigger needle for it too, I'm pretty sure, though that may defeat the purpose.

I'm pretty poor with mine but I could see an expert drawing some superfine lines with one. I think they're used for inking stuff sometimes.

One last precaution. Realize that these things MSRP for something like 400 dollars. Even though your brush is on sale for ~80 bucks right now, the parts aren't always subject to such a discount. You may be paying 30 bucks for a replacement nozzle tip. I had to do it once, it was a bitter pill. Still an excellent gun, I just wanted you to have all the ammunition to throw at your choice as you could have. If this is something you've scrimped for and you won't have 30 bucks in the off chance you lose one of the more expensive parts down the road, it's something to consider.

But in general...


Oh, by the way, are you talking about the Minitaire paints for the airbrush? Because yeah, you'll need to thin those. They're all different. My hazard orange and pumpkin, for instance, are ridiculously thick and will barely make it into the bottom of the paint reservoir without help My black is pretty close to just right, though for really low PSI close-in work I still have to thin it.

If you're talking about the spectratex or similar.. those tend to run a little thinner but they're awfully glossy to be using on models.

 Snoopdeville3 wrote:
Ok sounds like I will just stick with the Krome... i dont need more stress lol

I use the badger line for airbrushing.. some of those paints are very thin to begin with... I wonder if you need to think it for the Sotar...

I dunno maybe I will give it a shot.

Thanks for the help.

The sotar is less frustration than the krome in my experience (as someone who has both). Yes, very fine tip brushes have a very steep learning curve - however, I just find the renegade line (the velocity, krome, etc) is a lot more touchy than the sotar.

Best of luck in what you ever decide to do.