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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/27 06:44:48
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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So, I'm trying to go fluffy and not so fussed about competitive. The guys I play with are coming away from competitive a little bit as we feel it's starting to destroy the feel of the game. I've always loved Khorne, and with my previous daemonkin lists I was always upset that they didn't include Kharn....so I've changed the list. Let me know what you think.
Blood Host
Core - Slaughter Cult
Lord, Axe of Ruin, Combi-Flamer
8x Bezerkers - champion has lightening claw
8x Bezerkers - champion has lightening claw
5x Possessed
Lords of Slaughter
Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster
Auxiliary
Daemon engine - Maulerfiend - Magma Cutters
Daemon engine - Maulerfiend - Lasher Tendrils
Daemon engine - Soul Grinder - Phelgm Bombardment
CSM Allied Detachment
HQ - Kharn the Betrayer
Troops - 10x cultists
Fast Attack - Heldrake - Baleflamer
Heavy Support - Land Raider - Dirge Caster
So, originally I had warp gaze on the soul grinder. Still thinking that's an option as it doesn't then have ordinance. Also contemplated taking a normal thirster and freeing up some points for a legacy of ruin on the raider....interested to hear what people think? I'm open to minor changes, but not major.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/27 07:59:10
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I prefer rage to wrath myself. You could use the spare points to add the legacy of the first war or Armageddon on your raider, bumping up your daemon saves
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/27 09:00:30
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Ive ran Rage a few times now. Doesn't seem to do that well for me. The issue is, once he's on the ground he can take wounds quite fast. And then striking at initiative 1 means there's a lot that can actually wound him before he swings that big dirty axe. I do really want to make him work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/27 09:34:23
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Keep him near the raider for a 4++?
Admittedly invisible or grimoire is better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/27 12:21:02
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Yeah they are. But I refuse to take anything other than khorne, for fluff reasons...and I thought about that: but I'm also seriously considering not taking D weapons, no one else I play with does.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 20:36:57
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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So I actually think I'll take Captyn_Bob's idea, change the wrath of khorne Bloodthirster to a bloodthirster of insensate rage. Then give the land raider the exact of ruin: first war of Armageddon to give me a +1 invulnerable save to anything with the daemon of khorne special rule....I'm assuming the maulerfiends don't get this buff?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/29 05:41:34
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Maulers are daemons of khorne in the KDK list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/29 07:54:17
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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So, in theory, the possessed, the maulerfiends, the soul grinder and the bloodthirster would all benefit? Even the heldrake when it arrives?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/29 07:57:45
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Dakka Veteran
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Yes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/29 08:31:02
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Beast of Nurgle
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I honestly think that the D-thirster is the only balanced D weapon wielding model out there. So many of them are either CCWs at I4 or 5 or have long range profiles on dirt cheap LOWs. The D-Thirster may have 8 D attacks on the charge, but that's after he finally gets into combat and waits for everyone to pound on him with only a 3+/5++ keeping him "safe", then he can still get ganked by PFs, Thunder Hammers and Stomps. So I don't think you'd have to exclude him just because no one else is taking their D-weapon models when they could include them.
So I'm guessing that whoever isn't going into the Land Raider is just going to foot-slog it? If that's so, you may just exchange one of the Berzerker squads with Bloodletters because they can DS in a spot you need to be, you could get 14 of them plus a Bloodreaper and a Banner of Blood in place of them. Or you could exchange the the Soul Grinder (since he'd slow down your Land Raider giving the +1 Invul bubble to the following D-Thirster and Maulerfiends) for 2 Rhinos w/ Dozer Blades, exchange the Lightning Claws with Axes of Khorne + Combi-Melta/Flamer, and then give the Berzerkers each an Icon of Wrath.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/29 08:53:55
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Not the helldrake, as it isn't a KDK helldrake.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/29 11:03:07
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Agile Revenant Titan
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The idea was to footslog the rest. The main reason being that these are models I already own. But the idea of deep striking bloodletters is a nice one... I may decide to give that a go instead...
The soul grinder is in for multi purpose, a bit lot longer ranged firepower plus a touch of sky fire. The land raider will only likely give the +1 bubble for turn one, and maybe turn two, after that I'll be making combat and I'd imagine most things will be pretty spread out. The idea isn't to keep them all in the bubble, as that narrows me right down. But it can definitely help to hide the D-Thirster behind it for a 3+/4++ with a cover save as well.
Think I'll play test the list as is....but I'm pretty sold on the bloodletters idea. Also means more daemons of khorne on the board....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/29 11:43:07
Subject: [2000] - Khorne & Kharn - It's not all about tithe points...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You are probably better off using the thirster to give cover to the raider. Thirster can jink for cover anyway
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