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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/05 14:52:33
Subject: IG orders and attached allies.
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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I came across this scenario this weekend when list planning...
If I were to attach an independent character (say an ordo xenos inquisitor) to an IG squad (say a veteran squad), then I give an order to that vet squad, would the inquisitor also benefit from that order? Also, which models leadership would be tested? The ld8 sgt or the ld10 inquisitor?
So if I gave the order to ignore cover, how would that play out?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/05 14:53:36
Subject: IG orders and attached allies.
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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It only affects the guard unit. It says that under the voice command rule I believe
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/05 15:12:20
Subject: IG orders and attached allies.
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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The wording matters who does it say receives the benefit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/05 16:29:46
Subject: IG orders and attached allies.
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Furious Fire Dragon
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A unit with an allied IC attached to the unit is considered to be part of the units army (so vet squad I'd an IG unit regardless of attached characters) and all models deployed in that unit are considered that way for rules purposes. So in theory yes, he would benefit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/05 16:31:34
Subject: IG orders and attached allies.
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Nope the models don't all count as IG faction. So if the benefit applies to the UNIT he gets it if it applies to all IG MODELS in the unit he doesn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/05 16:44:16
Subject: IG orders and attached allies.
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Models don't have factions, units do.
An Ic that joins a unit from a battlebrother becomes a model in that faction unit(in this case the inquisitor is temporarily not an inquisition faction unit, he is a member of an astra militarum unit).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/05 21:53:26
Subject: IG orders and attached allies.
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Doesn't the order rules say only models from Codex AM receive the orders? Automatically Appended Next Post: To issue an order, declare the order your officer is attempting to issue and select a single
friendly non-vehicle unit from Codex: Astra Militarum that is within 12" of the officer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/05 22:00:28
Subject: IG orders and attached allies.
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
Ankh Morpork
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Some actual rules may help:
"To issue an order, declare the order your officer is attempting to issue and select a single friendly non-vehicle unit from Codex: Astra Militarum..."
"The ordered unit must then take a Leadership test to see if the order has been understood and acted upon. If the test is passed, the order takes effect as specificed in its description."
Up to this point, orders are obviously issued to units from Codex: Astra Miltarum. Given a joined Independent Character counts as part of the unit for all rules purposes, the unit is still a unit from Codex: Astra Militarum.
We the need to look at each individual order to see whether they affect the whole unit, or specific models within that unit. Generally they all affect the unit, or all models in that unit. Sometimes they affect all models in that unit using certain wargear.
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