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A pretty simple question, but I'm sure a very involved answer!

I've never used green stuff. I've used DAS modelling clay for bigger things like terrain, because it's pretty cheap (about £3 for 500g), but thinking about using something more fit for purpose for details on miniatures. So how do you use green stuff - is it just shape it and leave it to dry, how long does it take to dry etc? What's it good for, what's it not so good for? If I wanted to do something like my own Space Marine shoulder pads, is green stuff the right tool for the job, and can I make molds for it?

At £7 for 20g, is it good value/worth it?

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Price is determined by size not weight, for example for ~8 pounds you get ~36 inches packed in a roll. More details here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Green-Stuff-365-inches-Kneadatite-Blue-Yellow-Duro-Warhammer-/271353353808?hash=item3f2deb9650

About your question.... Your answer lays 2 clicks away by typing it in google: "How to use Green Stuff":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8LBsqMpi3k

Really good tutorial that helped me sort things. And this is really cool too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeOgDRNAzRo

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Aye, what Dalin said, but I'm too lazy to click on videos.

Whittlesey40k wrote:
I've used DAS modelling clay for bigger things like terrain


Green stuff isn't as claylike as DAS. It's got more of a stretchy, chewing gum/blu-tac consistency. More on that later.

So how do you use green stuff - is it just shape it and leave it to dry


Pretty much. You can work with that process too - bung it on when it's freshly mixed and stickiest (scoring or roughing up the mini's surface helps too); shape the main masses when it's softest; and if needs be, refine details when it starts to cure and firm up, when you can be a bit less concerned about twitching in the wrong direction and messing things up.

how long does it take to dry etc?


Depends on how much of each part you mix and how warm your surroundings are. More blue for a faster cure, more yellow for slower. Warmer temperatures speed up the process, cooler temps slow it. It might stay workable for as little as 40 minutes, to two hours or more. Speed-cure by tilting an incandescent desklamp over it, or applying some other source of gentle heat. Keep it workable for a day or two by sticking it in the freezer.

What's it good for, what's it not so good for?


It's generally a good all-rounder. Being elastic means it can be worked into very fine details without tearing or crumbling like some more claylike media. If you've used DAS I'm sure you know a bit about that!
It can be a disadvantage too, as green stuff is the sculpting putty with the most 'memory', causing it to 'spring back' to some degree, especially when it starts to harden. This means it can be easier to achieve sharp edges and e.g. mechanical details with other putties. (brown stuff, with virtually no memory, used to be the go-to putty for that kind of thing, until sculptors started trying others and the manufacturers pulled production.) However, that's with a basic 50:50 mix of yellow:blue. The manufacturers started to recommend a mix ratio of 1.5 parts yellow to 1 part blue - or 3:2 - which gives a much softer, more 'fluid' standard, and negates some of the memory problems.

After curing, it's fairly rubbery. You can cut and carve it, but it doesn't really take filing or sanding very well.

If I wanted to do something like my own Space Marine shoulder pads, is green stuff the right tool for the job, and can I make molds for it?


Shouldn't be too bad. You might want to really push it into some of those sharp corners of the mould, though. I don't know if it'd ever be just as crisp as more liquid casting media.

At £7 for 20g, is it good value/worth it?


Oh dear goodness, no. Like Dalin says, you can get it in 36" 100g strips for almost the same price. Also in 100g tubes, with individually wrapped bars of blue and yellow. The advantage with the latter is that the strip starts to cure in the middle, where the two parts touch, causing hard lumps in the mixed putty or other curing problems. Usually a good idea to cut out a few mm around that meeting area and discard it, and that's a fair bit of putty in the bin, right off. The tube avoids that problem. Though the disadvantage is that the bars of the tube are equally sized, and the strip normally comes with more yellow for the recommended mix ratio. That isn't too much of a concern IMO - sometimes you want more blue.

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There are a lot of Ebay sellers that offer fair amounts for your money. Also for some reason I've found that non GW greenstuff actually works better in that it sets quicker and is not as soft when it finally cures.

 
   
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Great info from Vermis, there. I heartily recommend avoiding the strips (and hobby-brand markup) and getting the tube. Kneadatite is the original manufacturer, which should aid you in tracking it down. Tons of online sellers, but I couldn't even guess as to your local availability.

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Slipstream wrote:
There are a lot of Ebay sellers that offer fair amounts for your money. Also for some reason I've found that non GW greenstuff actually works better in that it sets quicker and is not as soft when it finally cures.
That might just be because GW gives you a ratio of about 1.5:1 yellow to blue and more yellow = slower cure and softer end result. It also tends to be a bit easier to work when doing fine details, I usually use somewhere between 2:1 and 1:1 of the yellow:blue.

I like greenstuff when I want to be able to do all my shaping before it cures. I find it one of the easier putties to work with when it's soft.

Once it's cured it's a pain in the arse to work, it doesn't like being sanded and if you try and cut it, the knife will tend to bite in and take of big chunks, you can't really "shave" it because it's too rubbery, the blade either skips over the top or it bites in and digs deep. So if I want to be able to sand it or carve it after it's cured, I stay away from greenstuff.

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 oadie wrote:
Great info from Vermis, there. I heartily recommend avoiding the strips (and hobby-brand markup) and getting the tube. Kneadatite is the original manufacturer, which should aid you in tracking it down. Tons of online sellers, but I couldn't even guess as to your local availability.


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