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Sounds silly, but this is a genuine question. How important are those aspects? I was under the impression they mattered a lot, and directly fuelled the god in question.

Robots, including the Necrons, must offer slim pickings. No blood for the Blood God. No skulls for the Skull Throne.

Or is it all symbolic, and a skull shaped out of metal, and oil as blood will do as substitutes?
   
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Kill it. Then find a way to pull a skull from it

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Kill the robot.
Find another species with skulls and kill them.
Remove their skulls and put them in the robots.
Remove them from the robots.

Seriously though, Chaos is very fluid and there's nothing binary with them (although the Deamonkin codex fluff does seem to be going towards standardising Khorne, which I don't like). As long as there's the worship of war, Khorne's good. There doesn't have to be skulls, but skulls are a common and easy way to that.
   
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If it stands in the way it would kill it in anger

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My point is, that while talk of skulls and blood may seem like metaphors, in a ritual-based faction like Chaos, symbolism has power.

Khornate warriors literally take skulls to give to Khorne. And this literally empowers him. I honestly don't think substitutes would have the same power, as otherwise you could just burn a pile of effigies to summon a daemon rather than sacrifice living slaves.

Does anyone have a definitive answer on this? Khorne is probably the least pragmatic of any of the gods, as well as the most tempramental. I genuinely think Khornate warriors would be way less effective against a mechanical army for this reason - or some weird race of amoeba beings - if their offerings were not accepted by their patron. I don't think Khorne accepts second-best.
   
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Khorne is the god of warfare, bloodshed and violence. If one, some or all of these things is involved, Khorne is pleased.

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I am reminded of this
http://oglaf.com/skulls/

(Warning, although this comic is fine, many are NSFW)

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i can just see a khorne warrior in tears as the sponge people just squish back together every time their hacked apart
   
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Blood for the Blood god, skulls for the skull throne, who care who bleeds, who cares who dies, so these aliens have no blood, no skulls, the khorne faction killing them does, so khorne is happy either way.

Also, how would this faction have no skulls, no blood, skulls maybe I can understand, but no blood.... Everything bleeds something.
   
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Necrons are humanoid and their heads resemble skulls. You can still decapitate them and take their heads as trophies, so not much of a problem there except for the missing blood.

Pretty much all other xenos species in 40k, Tyranids included, have skulls and bleed. So yea, also no problem there.

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Necrons bleed too in the fluff, it's silver, but they bleed, just not in the conventional manner.
   
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But is that blood or just some fluid that is needed for their mechanical bodies to function?

Kahnawake
   
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 dekinrie wrote:
i can just see a khorne warrior in tears as the sponge people just squish back together every time their hacked apart
If he's too stupid to use a flamethrower, he deserves it

Khorne is a god of multiple aspects and emotions, all with a running theme. He's not /just/ about blood and skulls, even though that's what most of his features amount to.
   
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 Kahnawake wrote:
But is that blood or just some fluid that is needed for their mechanical bodies to function?

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"HEMOLYMPH FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
CHITIN FOR THE SKULL THRONE!"

... Yep, sounds pretty awesome.

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Halandri

His followers will bleed for him. They will lay down their skulls for him.

The current chaos space marine codex mentions Khorne berserkers will actually stop killing when there is nothing in reach in order to harvest the skulls of the fallen around them (friend and foe) with ritual blades.

In essence the scenario is inconvenient, but the Khornate warriors could happily martyr themselves.
   
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 Formosa wrote:
Also, how would this faction have no skulls, no blood, skulls maybe I can understand, but no blood.... Everything bleeds something.



Not necessarily. While there's no real-life examples that I can think of, there's numerous fantasy species and races that lack blood. An example would be slimes and oozes in the D&D universe, or a living creature made of vapor or non-biological materials like rocks.

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 Darth Bob wrote:
 Formosa wrote:
Also, how would this faction have no skulls, no blood, skulls maybe I can understand, but no blood.... Everything bleeds something.



Not necessarily. While there's no real-life examples that I can think of, there's numerous fantasy species and races that lack blood. An example would be slimes and oozes in the D&D universe, or a living creature made of vapor or non-biological materials like rocks.


Everything bleeds something, radiation, some sort of viscous fluid, vapour etc. Even necrons, doesn't nessarily need to even be clearly defined as blood as the act of murder can be enough for khorne.
   
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 Formosa wrote:

Everything bleeds something, radiation, some sort of viscous fluid, vapour etc. Even necrons, doesn't nessarily need to even be clearly defined as blood as the act of murder can be enough for khorne.


Bleeding involves the loss of blood or some variation of life-giving liquid. Depending on the context, "viscous fluids" like Tyranid ichor could be considered blood, but radiation and vapour are not blood. Also, upon further thought, I can think of numerous real-world creatures that definitely do not bleed. Most forms of plant life, sponges, jellyfish, fungi, and single cell organisms absorb oxygen directly through the upper layers of their bodies, and therefore have no need for blood. Just because you have something leaking out of you, doesn't mean you're bleeding. Otherwise people would be bleeding profusely when they use the bathroom.

Also, from a fantasy standpoint, a golem does not bleed as it's an artificial construct given life.

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 Darth Bob wrote:

Bleeding involves the loss of blood or some variation of life-giving liquid. Depending on the context, "viscous fluids" like Tyranid ichor could be considered blood, but radiation and vapour are not blood.

Weirdly, in a fight between Tyranids and Daemons Tyranid blood was described as worthless alien ichor which did not fuel the Khornate Daemons. It was a strange description.
   
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 Darth Bob wrote:

Bleeding involves the loss of blood or some variation of life-giving liquid. Depending on the context, "viscous fluids" like Tyranid ichor could be considered blood, but radiation and vapour are not blood.

Weirdly, in a fight between Tyranids and Daemons Tyranid blood was described as worthless alien ichor which did not fuel the Khornate Daemons. It was a strange description.


Yeah, Shadowbrink was pretty weird and not really inline with the general flow of things.
The Daemonkin codex features plenty of Tyranid killing, to the point where it's the favorite sport of some Daemonkin bands.
   
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Probably get angry and kill each other instead.... Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it flows.... So necrons would just stand there laughing at them as they rip each other apart.... :-D
   
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