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Loyal Necron Lychguard






South Dakota

At the start of November, I'm running a charity Escalation Tournament for X-Wing and I'm working on my ringer list.

Goals:
Win or Lose, fast games
Doesn't require tons of brainpower (this equates to just a few ships in my mind).

Thoughts so far:
ESCALATION #4

150 points

PILOTS

Black Sun Ace (32) x 2
Kihraxz Fighter (23), Predator (3), Cluster Missiles (4), Glitterstim (2)

Kavil (36)
Y-Wing (24), Twin Laser Turret (6), Unhinged Astromech (1), Veteran Instincts (1), Engine Upgrade (4)

Syndicate Thug (25) x 2
Y-Wing (18), Twin Laser Turret (6), Unhinged Astromech (1)

Or
ESCALATION #4

150 points

PILOTS

Darth Vader (37)
TIE Advanced (29), TIE/x1 (0), Predator (3), Engine Upgrade (4), Advanced Targeting Computer (5)

Soontir Fel (35)
TIE Interceptor (27), Royal Guard TIE (0), Push the Limit (3), Autothrusters (2), Stealth Device (3)

Omicron Group Pilot (37)
Lambda-Class Shuttle (21), Sensor Jammer (4), Emperor Palpatine (8), Engine Upgrade (4)

“Whisper” (41)
TIE Phantom (32), Intelligence Agent (1), Advanced Sensors (3), Veteran Instincts (1), Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Once again... I'm not trying to win my own tournament... instead I want a fast to play Ringer list.

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California

For the Scum list, I might consider dropping the TLT for an Ion Turret and giving it the Y-Wing title. Combined with Kavil, it should wreck their game plan against small base ships. That said, Large Base ships are a pain when running a TLT I learned recently (my Escalation League ran 60 points last week, and the Large base ships were hard to finish off with a max damage of 2.)

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Loyal Necron Lychguard






South Dakota

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying, but the Y-Wing title negates Kavil's pilot ability (a bonus attack dice when your target is out of arc).
Title and Ion cannons on the Thugs is barely better... a 2-dice chance of damage with the main gun and then up to 1 damage from the Ion cannon. Then again... I'm not really a control player.

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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge





Kalamazoo Michigan

The problem with so many TLT in escalation is that you wont do much damage against large ships. Escalation is limited on the number of large ships due to being more than 30 points generally, so you will likely see a large ship in the first stage at 60 points. If you only have TLT at stage 1 (60 points) you will likely lose most rounds.

For scum personally I would start out with one of the YV-666 pilots with no or little upgrades then addon later and you can easily fit a 2nd ship with 60 points.

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Executing Exarch





Title + Ion Cannon is okay with a decent bit of flying, given they pretty much fire last you can target something with no tokens left and usually land 1 or 2 damage (plus an Ion token), for output its most likely not as good as a TLT but sometimes the Ion is more worthwhile, and if you can get on the ionised ships tail its all kinds of tricky to get out of that, but obviously not on Kavil, and like you say doesn't fit with the quick games idea

As for Kavil, if its just for fast fun I'd replace the TLT with a Blaster Turret and Agromech Droid, 4 dice with rerolls seems more in line with the lists theme (juist don't bump !)

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Loyal Necron Lychguard






South Dakota

Good points all.
I particularly like the Blaster Turret and Agromech for Kavil.
I'll make that change and rejig things so that I'll start with the Black Sun Aces rather than the TLT caddies. A pair of Cluster Missiles in the opening round of shooting should really hamper a pancake's day.

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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot





the down underworld

If you go for blaster and agromech on kavil, you can start with something like

Black Sun Ace (29)
Kihraxz Fighter (23), Cluster Missiles (4), Glitterstim (2)

Kavil (31)
Y-Wing (24), Blaster Turret (4), R4 Agromech (2), Veteran Instincts (1


Edit: If you do go for the agromech, you probably wont use engine upgrade. Maybe swap it for shield upgrade instead

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One way to accomplish your goal of fast games is a z-95 missile swarm. Either you effectively end the game on the first turn with your alpha strike and then mop up the survivors or you fail to deliver an effective alpha strike and your opponent gets to demonstrate how easy it is to kill 4 HP ships with no defensive or arc dodging abilities. And since it isn't a very strong list you're unlikely to win too many games with it. You'll put up a fight and force your opponent to think about their approach, but good players with competitive lists should beat you and guarantee that you won't accidentally win the tournament.

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Loyal Necron Lychguard






South Dakota

The more I'm looking at it, the more I'm leaning that way Peregrine.

Drop the 2 TLT caddie Y-Wings for several missiled up Z-95's.
I have a similar Alpha Strike with the K fighters... adding the Z's at the end instead will work.

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