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Hey Dakka.
12 years ago I had a space marine force and played that a bit then eventually quite cause it takes forever to build an army when you're 9.

I've been thinking about coming back to 40k for a while now. Around X-mas should be when I'm going to start buying stuff. My brother decided to play his eldar army again and one of his friend has multiple armies and they play often. I've attended one of their games and played a 2v2 2k points game. Was fun.

I don't know what army I want, but at least I know what I don't want. I don't have a prefered play style and this is why I can't decide what I'm going for. I'm trying to go the models I like, but I also want to be competitive. If I'd be going only for the nicest models I'd already have drop 1k$ and bought myself all the adepta seroritas. All of them. But I ain't rich nor slowed. So yeah.

The definite ones I don't want
- Eldar (I don't like they're models at all. Never did, never will)
- Dark Eldar (Worse then the eldar)
- Tau (I hesitated, but the base troops are nice but the big suits and other stuff I don't like)
- Tyranids (They are pretty cool to look at, but I don't see me being a eyeball looking overlord that controls zergs.. ohh wait I mean't tyranids)
- Imperial Knights (No way in hell I'm playing this)

The ehhhh category (Mostly because I don't like overplayed stuff and because I'd rather start fresh)
- Space Marines! (Everyone has them. No really, ask someones grandmother, they have a space marine army. Models look alright)
- Grey Knights (Cool looking space marines. But still space marines.)
- Skitarii : Models are neat except the vanguards that look bad. Brand new army, might be cool as I want to start fresh. But I know absolutely nothing about them.

The runner-ups
- Orks (Models are nice, gameplay seems enjoyable (trukk everything and everywhere)) But I heard they took a beating in 7th edition.
- Astra Militarum (I like dem tanks and the mechanised lists you can do. But the flashlights wilding guards seem underwhelming)
- Chaos Space marines (Crazy good looking models, 4 gods to mod your stuff too, super cool that you can have deamons as BFF and heard they're getting a new codex soon too)
- Deamons (I don't see myself going pure deamon)
- - Skitarii : Models are neat except the vanguards that look ok. Brand new army, might be cool as I want to start fresh. But I know absolutely nothing about them.


This ain't no ''you should pick what you really want OP'' thread. This is a post where I want you to tell me what I should play. Come on Dakka, make me choose one.

Ps : It's all for gaks n gigs and tbh I'm expecting some really great feedback from yall that might actually help me choose an army.

You forgot Necrons.

Obviously go with what you like the look of, but you want more than that.

From a game play point of view go with something with a newer codex. from your ehhh and runner up catagories thatd be Marines, Grey Knights, Khorne Daemon Kin or Skitarii.

Marines are overused unless you go BA, DA or SW IMO so maybe not them, Grey Knights are cool. I've only ever seen one Khorne Daemon Kin army so that could be interesting however you seem more interested in all the gods as opposed to just Khorne. Skitarii/Ad Mech rock, have great models and rules, they're different, personally i'd say go with them.

Skitarii fluff is basically a Imperial faction which worship technology, constantly search for arcane tech and upgrade themselves to be more machine like which they think is better. Pretty grim and pretty cool IMO

You can go Skitarii and ally with Cult greyknights and astra if you wanted lol Skitarii really fun from a shooting aspect, although ironically they're best unit in my opinion is the vangaurd so idk if you'd wanna pick em... The vangaurd really grew on me though ha-ha winning wise too they're probs the best army choice of the ones you listed... Deamons can be cool I think and same with greyknights to look at.Skitarii Cult and greyknights in my opinion don't have many options unit wise so you will probably have to ally which could be nice if you want a variety


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Get an army like 2 squads of 10 vangaurd 2 onagers with neutron lazer 1 Dominus 2 squads of 3 Destroyers 1 librarian 2 squads of 5 grey termies maybe dreadknights and intercepters, and then toss in what you want maybe even an imperial knight or something (you can take one don't need a whole army of em for an allied detachment)

Join da Orkz ya git! We'z da biggest and da strongest!

Orks aren't face roll easy mode but they have fun and varied tactics that can be quite effective in anything short of hardcore tournaments (even then Green Tide, Biker Gangs, and Tankbusta Trukk spam can win tournaments). Orks are all about the mantra of "quantity is a quality all its own" and nothing is unkillable so casualties are always happening. Its fun for both parties as the enemy is shoveling Orks off the board and yet there are more Orks getting into their face to dakka and choppa their face off. Lots of playstyles available to the Orks to fit your particular taste (and gives each Ork list its own unique feel).

-Green Tide- TONS of boyz and nobz all combined into a massive wall of green and choppy death. KFF, Painboy, and Void Shield Generators can make the Green Tide deceptively durable. Might be a bit much to move around the table but if you want to play out the thematic of a Ork Horde running into the enemy lines and chopping them to bits then this is the best way to play that out.

-Blitz Brigade- Battlewagon Spam to flood the board with an AV14 wall with scout. Fill with boyz, tankbustas, lootas, meganobz, etc and always be in charge range on turn 2. AV14 isn't quite the unstoppable force it use to be but many opponent lists lack the firepower to stop 5 Battlewagons before the inevitable turn 2 blitz with basically the entire Ork army. Tau (the unofficial hard counter to Orks) really struggles vs Blitz Brigade style lists.

-Biker Gang- Boatload of Warbikers and Zardsnark makes them troops. Warbikers are a great mix of durability, dakka, and somewhat choppy. Good synergy with trukk meganobz (MANZ Missiles) and trukk tankbustas. One of the stronger Ork playstyles and can be blended with trukk spam tactics.

-Dread Mob- Forget about the boyz and take an army of all Walkers. Deff Dreads, Killa Kanz, and the Forgeworld walkers flooding the board with AV and a lot of potential AP2 melee attacks. Who cares about mob rule when you have no leadership rolls. Not the most competitive army (in tournaments anyway) but its quite capable for standard play.

-Trukk Spam- Take all your favorite Orks that stand on 2 feet, throw them in a lot of trukks, floor it at the enemy, watch the mass carnage, sort out later if the carnage was your boyz getting blown to bits, the enemy getting their teeth kicked in, or both. Fast army and high casualties but my god is there a lot of trukks on the table. Good synergy with bikers if you don't want to go full trukk spam.

There are even shooty Ork playstyles but I don't know how effective they can be. Anyway Orks are ton of fun to play and can put up quite the fight but are almost never unenjoyable for the opponent to play against. Even if they lose, they will kill a good amount of Orks in the process. Also Orks have the best warcry in the entire fluff which is just icing on the cake.

On the modeling side of things they are THE kit basher and scratch builder army of choice as you can make basically anything orky and that rarely will anybody object to creative Ork conversions (try to be funny or silly with a space marine conversion and people will freak out like a tech priest who sees an unsanctioned weapon modification.)

 wuestenfux wrote:
You forgot Necrons.

Yeah my bad. Necrons look cool and all but I don't see myself playing an army nobody likes to play against. Especially if I'm prolly only gonna play for fun for quite a while.


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I've always liekd orks. The killer for me is how bad point wise the FlashGitz are. Damn are their models so good looking. FlashGitz all day everyday.

CSM troops look like crap. New SM line crushes, which is why I collect them. Don't actually play though, so couldn't make any suggestions about that.

I have the most fun building a CSM list than anything else. Themes up the wazoo. Even Orks aren't as fun as putting together some Chaos lists to reflect whatever playstyle I want. Zombie horde, Corsair specialists, Boarding Party, Huron's Hounds, Invasion Fleet, Heresy Relics, Breachers, there's just so many options based on fluff, not just gameplay. Now, they're not good, but they are fun. Hopefully the new codex ups the power but doesn't restrict the fluffy options.

I would say CSM or Orks

If you like Chaos Marines and Daemons both, you might want to think about Khorne Daemonkin. They are a very fun army to play even if they aren't super-powerful. Plus, they can ally with CSM and Daemons for even more options.

 drunken0elf wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
You forgot Necrons.

Yeah my bad. Necrons look cool and all but I don't see myself playing an army nobody likes to play against. Especially if I'm prolly only gonna play for fun for quite a while.

Automatically Appended Next Post:I've always liekd orks. The killer for me is how bad point wise the FlashGitz are. Damn are their models so good looking. FlashGitz all day everyday.

Necron's are fun to play against, people just don't like playing against the reclamation legion formation. Necron's are probably one of my favourite armies to play against. Also i think necrons get bad rep cause they were the first army with the "Decurion" format, with the power creep they shouldn't be a problem for newer codices.

If you like an army don't choose not to play it just because of one unit in the codex. Orks are probably the most fun army in the game, if you don't think they can compete take it on as a challenge. Any army can be made competitive, maybe not top tier but with a good army and strategy any army will pull its weight.

 ZergSmasher wrote:
If you like Chaos Marines and Daemons both, you might want to think about Khorne Daemonkin. They are a very fun army to play even if they aren't super-powerful. Plus, they can ally with CSM and Daemons for even more options.

I have very deeply tought about deamonkin. Model wise and fluff wise it's really cool. Soul Grinders and hellbruts look fantastic.

One thing I don't seem to quite understand is why Deamonkin can't have Kharne? Like whyy? He's such a swell guy and those 7 ap2 attacks on the charge are neato.

And one thing that also seems to make me hesitate is sorcerers. Magic spam errwhere seems quite fun and hilarious. Concidering my brother currently plays the cheese farseer thing to reroll the jink jetbikes for the trololol. Would be hilarious to deny everything he does every round.

Based on the original post it looks like you'd be best placed to go for Orks or Chaos Space Marines. Bonus with CSM is you can get some Daemon allies.

I wouldn't be too worried about the current low power of these armies. Sooner or later they'll get a new codex and be the flavour of the month.