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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/21 20:46:56
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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So the leaks say the base Tau codex hasn't changed just new things added. Obviously there will be good formations but don't know what they are yet. However the big bonus us that the Ethereals storm of fire effects the Stormsurge, so with the Pulse Driver that's 4 S10 Ap2 large blasts at 36" if stationary. So here's the list:
CAD ~ Tau
Commander: 2 MP, DC, TL, 2 Marker Drones 152
Ethereal: 50
Breachers: 45
Breachers: 45
4 Marker Drones: 56
Skyray: BSF 116
Stormsurge: EWO, Shield Gen, Driver, ABFP 410
FBSC
Riptide: Ion, EWO 190
3 Broadsides: 2 EWO, 1 TL 210
3 Broadsides: 2 EWO, 1 TL 210
AD ~ Ultramarines
Librarian: 65
Tac Squad: Melta, Combi Melta, Drop Pod 125
Drop Pod: 35
ASSASSINORUM
Culexus: 140
So any invisistar dies as I drop in the Culexus and then pump them with S10 ignores cover rounds. Plenty of anti MSU with the Broadsides, Stormsurge and Commander able to target multiple units. Plenty of ignores cover. Plenty of AT. GMCs are the only real concern though 4 S10 blasts a turn will hurt them bad. I want to get a PEN Chip on the Commander for extra help vs GMC but can't find 15 points I can spare.
What do you think?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/10/21 21:20:15
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/21 20:57:55
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Dakka Veteran
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I think it's a cool idea but it will suffer the same fate as the rvarna. Initially people were using ethereals to buff the rvarna to shoot 8 large blasts. You are talking about the same thing but with this suit. The issue is that gw almost immediately FAQd this so that the ethereal cannot do buff the rvarna. If you lock down and then further buff with storm of fire that would be rediculous if not super fun to play with and super hate inducing to loose against.
Invisibility still ruins tau competitiveness.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/21 21:11:14
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Forgeworld FAQ'd the R'Varna, GW doesn't do FAQs so I wouldn't hold my breath. I'd murder any invisistar with this. This is for competitive play. Automatically Appended Next Post: A change suggested by a friend to get in the PEN chip so I can deal with GMCs better:
CAD ~ Tau
Commander: 2 MP, DC, TL, PEN Chip, Marker Drone 155
Ethereal: 50
Breachers: 45
Breachers: 45
4 Marker Drones: 56
Skyray: BSF 116
Stormsurge: EWO, Shield Gen, Driver 405
FBSC
Riptide: Ion, EWO 190
3 Broadsides: 2 EWO, 1 TL 210
3 Broadsides: 2 EWO, 1 TL 210
AD ~ Ultramarines
Librarian: 65
Tac Squad: Melta, Combi Melta, Drop Pod 125
Drop Pod: 35
ASSASSINORUM
Culexus: 140
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/10/21 21:29:50
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/21 23:05:04
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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FlingitNow wrote:Forgeworld FAQ'd the R'Varna, GW doesn't do FAQs so I wouldn't hold my breath. I'd murder any invisistar with this. This is for competitive play.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
A change suggested by a friend to get in the PEN chip so I can deal with GMCs better:
CAD ~ Tau
Commander: 2 MP, DC, TL, PEN Chip, Marker Drone 155
Ethereal: 50
Breachers: 45
Breachers: 45
4 Marker Drones: 56
Skyray: BSF 116
Stormsurge: EWO, Shield Gen, Driver 405
FBSC
Riptide: Ion, EWO 190
3 Broadsides: 2 EWO, 1 TL 210
3 Broadsides: 2 EWO, 1 TL 210
AD ~ Ultramarines
Librarian: 65
Tac Squad: Melta, Combi Melta, Drop Pod 125
Drop Pod: 35
ASSASSINORUM
Culexus: 140
Is the Ethereal bunkering down with one of the Broadside units? Seems like He'll be singled out pretty fast which would diminish your ace in the hole by half. Also how is the PEN chip helping this list all that much? If you join the commander to the other Broadside unit, then 4 of the 7 markerlights in the list become much less useful and an easy target,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/22 08:54:01
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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PEN chip is for Commander to help deal with Gladius (he's a reasonable shot at downing an AV11 vehicle a turn with it), however it is mainly for Wraithknight spam. Rerolling to wound with a unit of Braodsides will make more difference than 2 extra ML hits in that matchup. Unless I need ignores cover in which case he sticks with the drones. It is about options.
Yes the Ethereal hangs out with a unit of sides unless I can completely hide him from LoS and protect him better that way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/22 09:34:26
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Water-Caste Negotiator
Stratford on avon
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I like the list i prefer using tetras for my markerlights for the extra mobility and points wise on there own there more effective than patfinders or (non DC) drones but 4 are better for pure Mls with a commander going with them (guessing thats what your doing) if not 1 tetra has more chance for markerlight hits than 4 drones (and is cheeper even with disruption pods)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/10/22 09:40:29
Careful I have CDO it’s like OCD but in alphabetical order LIKE IT SHOULD BE!!!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/22 10:10:13
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Yes I have a Drone Controller commander.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/22 11:48:41
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Once those drones are gone you won't have in gores cover so ravenwing would give you a hard time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/22 12:32:40
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Dakka Veteran
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I should have read who was posting the list before commenting, and taken into account the celexus in the pod. I'm not familiar with his rules but I assume you know what you are talking about with him.
Cheers flingitnow, always enjoy reading the lists you are coming up with.
I personally like the tetras better than the commander and marker drones but like you said he's there to help with wraithknights. Please post a batrep. I want to see the celexus shut down and invis star.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/22 14:31:16
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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wpago wrote:Once those drones are gone you won't have in gores cover so ravenwing would give you a hard time
In 2 turns of shooting I should have killed the important stuff (6 S10 Ap2 ignores cover blasts and the missilesides). Remember the Skyray has 2 Bs4 MLs too and that the Mark'o can JSJ so won't be getting shot at unless you have pods which then need to survive interceptor...
Ravenwing is not a major concern. Automatically Appended Next Post: I don't really like the Tetra models and just prefer the Mark'o he does stuff as well as MLs and I like him for annoyance. In an all mech list Tetras would be better but I'd still go Mark'o for models...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/22 14:36:51
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Take the tac squad out of the drop pod. Put the Assassin in there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/22 15:56:47
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Can't it is a dedicated transport. Also why would I do that instead of just putting the assassin in the empty pod? This way I get to choose if I want the Assassin in turn 1 or 2 AND I don't break any rules...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/22 16:49:14
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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he has 2 pods...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/23 09:36:18
Subject: [1850] - NEW Tau - making the Stormsurge work!
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Water-Caste Negotiator
Stratford on avon
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I don't really like the Tetra models and just prefer the Mark'o he does stuff as well as MLs and I like him for annoyance. In an all mech list Tetras would be better but I'd still go Mark'o for models...
yea didnt engage brain as i would have put the commander in the BS squad for tank hunter (which they already have) and twin linked (also already have) ha ha
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Careful I have CDO it’s like OCD but in alphabetical order LIKE IT SHOULD BE!!!!!!
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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