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Hey guys so il be honest the standard csm book is infuriating me. So I am looking at running my army under kdk. Now I'm not looking to create a tournament level list but I'd like to make one which is fun to use and has a chance of winning I have
Around 29-30 standard csm 4 of which are havocs which I can just change back to bolters and I have some bolter do chosen mixed in
44 cc cultists with 2 flamer dudes
43 ranged cultists with 3 heavy Stubbers 3 champions woth shot gun
3 rhinos 4 of you include the predator which I plan to turn into 1
6 hell brutes
5 terminators 1 power fist 1 combi flamer 1 heavy flamer
6 bikers with a icon
5 raptors
A defiler
A land raider
A skulltaker which I can use as a herald
2 dv Lords
1 jump pack lord with 2 claws

Not a bad start but not sure how much beter KDK will be for you. it is my first army been playing it most of this year and a struggle to win games against most of the updated army's. Unless you want to spam dogs hell chickens they have a lot of the same problems csm have. I think about selling them all the time. But good luck to you no mater what you decide.

You're gonna want to pick up ALOT of Flesh hounds. Some bloodletters, A Heldrake, a skull cannon, a soul grinder.. Maybe a few maulerfiends. Definetly going to want a juggerlord. I'd grab a Bloodthirster and a daemon Prince as well. A unit of Possessed so that you can run a Bloodhost.

It's not a bad start- but you'd be hard pressed to make a viable list with what you have.

Ok so I'm thinking of going with this
Not optimal I know but I'm working with what I've got

Formation
Mayhem pack
3 x Hellbrutes 300 points



Khorne Daemonkin Combined Arms Detachment
HQ
Herald of Khorne 55 points

Troops
10 csm with 2 plasma guns Combi plasma 9 x ccws and a rhino with Dozer Blade 258 points

10 chaos space marines with 2 plasma guns Power Fist 9 x ccws rhino with Dozer Blade 273 points

10 x Cultists 75 points
Flamer

10 cultists 75 points
Flamer

Fast Attack
6 Chaos Bikers 162 points
2 melta guns

Rhino 35 points

Rhino 35 points

Heavy Support
Hellbrute 100 points

Hellbrute 100 points

You're gonna want to charge with the CSM so that they can die and give you blood tithe.... I would drop the plasma. Maybe add the ccw' for an extra attack

nope, just field as many msu of cultist and marines.

First max out 6 squads of 8 cultists. there you now have 12 potential blood tithe points.

If you had a 2nd Combined Arms Detachment of KDK, can you get blood tithe points from another 6 squad of 8 cultists?

You get to generate so much blood tithe points real quick if you can take multiple CADs with as many 6 squads of troops with minimal 8 body counts.