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so I'm currently building/painting a speed freaks/wagon rush army, lots of bikes, buggies, deffkoptas, manz missiles and grot tanks. for troops I'm going with 3 battlewagons w 19 boyz and an hq in each. I have 20 slugga boyz and 20 shoota boyz, and 20 yet to be assembled. are sluggas ok in a wagon rush application or should they be taken with shootas/ any advice is apprecitated, thanks for reading.

Generally speaking, sluggas are better mechanized and shootas are better footsloggers (the only big exception being green tide) so in this case I would say sluggas, you need the extra attack on the charge to make up for any potential losses from overwatch or the battlewagon exploding. The shootas are also counter-intuitive in the sense that shooting with them makes it harder for you to reach the opponent that you're charging, unless you're literally only 3-5" away from them after disembarking. Throw in the fact that you're also paying a point per boy for a shoota and sluggas beat them out for both points efficiency and practicality.

Sluggaz with 'eavy armour, otherwise you'll die in droves in combat.

Shootaz could work for one as a gun platform but I wouldn't load up with shootas in all.

cool, thanks fellas.

In trukk rush lists I would load them up with slugga boyz. With those small units you want wounds done in CC to win combat and it minimizes point loses from vehicle explosions. Same for many battlewagon lists but you can somewhat justify shootas as you have enough bodies in the unit to win combats even without the extra swings.

The exception is taking shootas in a Blitz Brigade as that scout move (if used) prevents a turn 1 charge but your often close enough to be in shoota range without having to go more than 6" with the wagon (full BS shooting). On turn 2 its rare to be out of charge range so you don't need to WAAAGH run and charge so you can get 2 rounds of shooting in before getting in CC.

Sluggas go in trukks, shootas go in battlewagons. The smaller the squad the more you need every attack. However, no one prevents you from trying out both and taking what worked best for you.

I say go with shootas in wagons unless we are talking about a bodyguard for a warboss with the lucky stick, in which case the avalanche of ws5 s4 attacks is sickening.

The reason I generally prefer shootas in wagons is that they are very shooty and armour 14 is hard to deal with. This gives you more options than "just zoom forward and assault" which gets predictable and leaves your boyz exposed if the initial charge doesn't break the back of your opponent's army.

If you do take trukk boyz, I advise giving them sluggas and 'eavy armour and using them as a missile unit. They need the armour because they don't have the weight of numbers to survive otherwise.

I don't agree that wagons boyz *need* 'eavy armour. Mine usually mash whatever they charge even without it, and there are a lot of units around that will ignore their armour anyway. I would say this is more of a personal preference issue.

Go 50/50. This way you won't regret too much when eiher of them gets nerfed again. And currently,50/50 works/