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Can anyone recommend a good Warhammer book. Preferably one that has Necrons?

a good one that doesnt have necrons is the book legion by dan abnett.

I'll have to check it out.
Are there any stories that carry through multiple books??

Caves of Ice by Sandy Mitchell - its one of the Commissar Cain novels.

The Commissar Cain novels carry through multiple books, but each is a standalone. Also, he faces a variety of enemies, not Necrons.

Gaunts Ghosts novels carry through multiple novels. They have no Necrons though.

What are the Cain novels about? (It seems self explanatory, I know)

What are the Ghost novels about?(Also self explanatory?)

Gaunt's Ghosts follow an Imperial Guard regiment throguh their crusade to reclaim the Sabbat Worlds from Chaos.

Cain follows the adventures of a cowardly Commissar. He does encounter Necrons a couple of times.

Best series is Eisenhorn / Ravenor though.

I have to agree with Miko. The Gaunt's Ghosts series is honestly one of the best 40k series that I've ever read

I'll have to read them. thank you for the advice and insight

40K Books:
-Eisenhorn
-Ciaphas Cain
-Gaunt's Ghosts
-Storm of Iron
-Night Lords Trilogy
-15 Hours
-Ahriman: Exile
-Talon of Horus
-Eldar "Path of" series

Horus Heresy Series
-A Thousand Sons
-Horus Rising
-First Heretic
-Prospero Burns
-Betrayer
-Scars
-Legion
-Know No Fear

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Gaunt's Ghosts follow an Imperial Guard regiment throguh their crusade to reclaim the Sabbat Worlds from Chaos.

Cain follows the adventures of a cowardly Commissar. He does encounter Necrons a couple of times.

Yes and no - Cain considers himself cowardly - but no one else does and all his deeds tend to contradict that. Its one of the inherent contradictions about him - he thinks he is a coward but its pretty clear that he is not. Although he is based partly on Flashman - they are very very different characters.

He encounters Necrons quite a few times and Caves of Ice is a good read / starting point tbh if you want Necrons.

Thanks, I'll start with the ciaphas cain boks then do ghost

 Mr Morden wrote:

Yes and no - Cain considers himself cowardly - but no one else does and all his deeds tend to contradict that. Its one of the inherent contradictions about him - he thinks he is a coward but its pretty clear that he is not. Although he is based partly on Flashman - they are very very different characters.

He encounters Necrons quite a few times and Caves of Ice is a good read / starting point tbh if you want Necrons.

Oh, no. Cain is a coward - he's just a pragmatic one. Everything he does is to enhance his own chances of survival. The only times he does something heroic are when the only other option is dying even more horribly, at least in the earlier books.

Dead Men Walking has Necrons vs the Death Korps.

Hey, so on Black Library they have 2 omnibuses. The first with the first three novels and the second with the next three novels.
They are $15 each but the 7th, 8th, and 9th novels are $25 each.
Do the omnibuses actually have all three novels like they say? or is it just an abridged or shortened version?

It's the full novels, plus a couple of short stories.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

Yes and no - Cain considers himself cowardly - but no one else does and all his deeds tend to contradict that. Its one of the inherent contradictions about him - he thinks he is a coward but its pretty clear that he is not. Although he is based partly on Flashman - they are very very different characters.

He encounters Necrons quite a few times and Caves of Ice is a good read / starting point tbh if you want Necrons.

Oh, no. Cain is a coward - he's just a pragmatic one. Everything he does is to enhance his own chances of survival. The only times he does something heroic are when the only other option is dying even more horribly, at least in the earlier books.

Nah I don't buy that and even the books author says he is not that sure - Amberley in universe says he does not give himself nay where near the amount of credit (although she is biased as his lover ). His cowardice often results in him challenging people to single combat (or Chaos marines) or performing something actually death defying rather than simply hiding. I think this sums it nicely:

Likewise, Cain views himself as a cowardly figure of little worth, often wondering why various enemy generals are so fixated on defeating him—leaving us completely ignorant (until Vail points it out) of the morale boost caused by the mere presence of a genuine "Hero of the Imperium", much less any acts of heroism that may be forthcoming. In the end, Vail's limited interjections indicate that she believes Cain is too hard on himself; in the foreword to "Fight or Flight", author Sandy Mitchell admitted that he himself is not sure if Cain is truly a coward, or a genuine hero with a massive inferiority complex or a case of impostor syndrome.

Do the short stories tie in with the plot or are they there own little tangents?

I don't know about the Cain Omnibuses, but in the Gaunt's Ghosts and Night Lords Omnibusses, the short stories filled in minor events that occurred between novels. By comparison, the Eisenhorn omnibus short stories were much more self-contained.

Thanks, I'm buying both omnibuses

Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Do the short stories tie in with the plot or are they there own little tangents?

Well they are all part of the greater story but the "Cain Archive" is not published (either in universe or by by Black Library) in chronolgical order but rather is a selection of linked and interesting adventures. Quite often characters re-ocurr and Cain is stronglyl linked with the Valhalan regiments although he later attens an impressive status with the Talarians.

Interesting, I'm looking forward to reading them

Good - hope you enjoy

Thanks man.

Since you want to Necrons, a good one is Fall of Damnos, Ultramarines vs Necrons, one of the only books I know that shows more about the Necrons from their side, then just as walking machines of death.

Hmm..... Interesting

Don't know if it has been mentioned - but the Path of the Dark Eldar Trilogy (you can buy them separate or in the one big book which is titled 'Path of the Dark Eldar')

Have come part way through the first story and I love the book.

Due to busy lives etc. my interest in WH40k waxes and wanes, but every time I pick up this book it rekindles my interest.

Ahriman books are good

Space <cough> Marine....the original and best.

Gaunt's Ghosts, from my experience.

The Founding Omnibus is a pretty good introduction, but I hesitate to call any of the books in it truly great. The individual short stories can be fun though, and Necropolis is a fun over the top read.

The Saint has some good and some bad books. Honour Guard and Straight Silver are both on the good end, Straight Silver being the best of the four. Guns of Tanith is alright, but Sabbat Martyr is the worst book in the whole series

The Lost Omnibus is excellent from beginning to end. Traitor General, His Last Command, The Armour of Contempt and Only In Death are all great books that really benefit from being about a hundred pages longer than any of the earlier books.

The Victory only has two books so far, Blood Pact and Salvation's Reach. They're pretty good, but not as good as The Lost.

The First Heretic should be mandatory reading (also happens to set the stage for the entire HH).

 Arcsquad12 wrote:
The Founding Omnibus is a pretty good introduction, but I hesitate to call any of the books in it truly great. The individual short stories can be fun though, and Necropolis is a fun over the top read.

Currently reading it, near the end of Necropolis. Have to agree. Fun, with memorable characters, and genuinely awesome/touching moments but not truly great. A lot of repetition when it comes to how they win engagements (tube charges -> complete collapse of enemy war effort).