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I have a double tournament coming up where I know two guys are bringing identical lists. Their combined army will include 4 farseers on bikes, 2 wraithknights, and all the rest of their points spent on scatbikes, I think around 36 total. 1,000 points per player.

I own necron, renegades of vraks, and tzeentch demons.

My ally owns imperial guard and dark angels bikes.

What do you guys think is the best way to deal with this? My current play is to go all necron vehicles so I'm immune to his scatbikes, while my ally spams DA bikes with the rerollable jink.

Also, this tournament is CAD only, no formations. Within these restrictions, I think this is the best we can do, but would likely still lose to their list.

You're gonna have to have the Dark Angels player spam as much Grav as possible in order to kill the Wraithknight. For your end, minimum Immortals for troops will be fine. The rest can be spent on:
1. Maybe a Destroyer Lord with a retinue of Wraiths. They'll be a good fire magnet, and a durable one at that.
2. Tomb Blades with Scopes. If your opponent cam force the Scatterbikes to jink, you can more easily kill them and that would help immensely.
3. Ghost Arks aren't a bad idea. The issue comes from the Wraithknight being able to easily pop them.
4. Doomsday Arks on a Sky Shield. Throw them on top for a 4++ and force jinks. The Wraithknight would have a possibly tougher time killing them too.

Subclavian steel wrote:
I have a double tournament coming up where I know two guys are bringing identical lists. Their combined army will include 4 farseers on bikes, 2 wraithknights, and all the rest of their points spent on scatbikes, I think around 36 total. 1,000 points per player.

I own necron, renegades of vraks, and tzeentch demons.

My ally owns imperial guard and dark angels bikes.

What do you guys think is the best way to deal with this? My current play is to go all necron vehicles so I'm immune to his scatbikes, while my ally spams DA bikes with the rerollable jink.

Also, this tournament is CAD only, no formations. Within these restrictions, I think this is the best we can do, but would likely still lose to their list.

Well, Force Staves on Psykers (because you need STR 5 just to force the issue at least) for the Impguard would help.

Honestly, nothing but a good old Lascanon to the WraithKnights face a bunch of times will truly help an IG/necron force against the Wraith Knight. Going uber Psychic heavy and bringing the Psychic Shriek with Daemons cOULD help and FMC's spammed would be a way to go?

Tough matchup though.

Destroyers are the de-facto necron answer to this.
Jet pack infantry naturally have deep strike, and a 5 man squad will put out 10 S5 AP3 shots at 24". Preferred enemy means you will kill 6 jet bikes, if they don't jink , 3 if they do. 81 - 162 points dead. Destroyers are also 2W T5 3+/5+++ so they are fairly durable. taking 12 scatter laser hits each to kill.

Destroyers can also threaten wraithknights if they have no other targets, but it would take a lot of volume to kill it.

Heavy destroyers are a good answer to wraithknights, Doing half a wound each to a wraithknight every time they fire.

Finally deathmarks are a decent answer to wraithknights. If you drop in 10 of them with a D-lord they will do about 4-5 wounds to a wraithknight on the turn they arrive(every turn after it should be 1-2 wounds). They also make a decent delivery system for a D-lord with the Voidreaper, and provide ablative wounds.

If a VoidReaper D-lord gets charged by a wraithknight he should do 1.7 wounds before it stomps (more if you get zealot), assuming he doesnt get killed before, but that's what ablative wounds are for. Best case scenario, charging with zealot, the D-lord deals 2.9 wounds at I2.

With the deathmarks and 2 Heavy destroyers, you should statistically kill a wraithknight on turn 2 if they arrive.

If your ally brings a lot of warp charge they could deny any cover bonuses on the scatter bikes, making your destroyers more effective.


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Also, if formations were allowed, the Destroyer cult would be your best bet.

Ask your ally nicely to bring a Warhound would be the easiest answer...

but honestly, in this matchup I will advocate Monoliths

immune to 90% of the army in question (95% if the farseers dont have access to Haywire psychic), and drops a S8AP3 pie plate that will either erase a unit of scatbikes a turn, or gimp their shooting, which is still good.

coupled with LRBTs, you should be able to wall-of-armour the eldar bikers out of existence, buying you plenty of time to drop the WKs

lots of Destroyers & HWTs will do it.



you could also, if you wanted, run a Living Tomb & a Destroyer Cult, which gives a massive bubble of dangerous terrain for their bikers, and gives your Destroyers Shred, which will help against the WK. Depending on if you take a monolith or not, this option allows 30 or 230 points to spent on upgrades.

If you did choosed that though, I would say let your IG buddy take care of objectives