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Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User




Hi everyone, i want to start a renegade force of imperial guard. but i am wondering should i use the astra codex or the chaos codex ? any help and opinions are more then welcome
   
Made in gr
Rough Rider with Boomstick




Use the Renegades of Vraks. It is the Forgeworld one and you will never look back.

You shouldn't be worried about the one bullet with your name on it, Boldric. You should be worried about the ones labelled "to whom it may concern"-from Blackadder goes Forth!
 
   
Made in gb
Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend





Or the Imperial Armour 13 renegade list if you want a little more variety, both lists have their pros and cons.

Please note, for those of you who play Chaos Daemons as a faction the term "Daemon" is potentially offensive. Instead, please play codex "Chaos: Mortally Challenged". Thank you. 
   
Made in il
Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch






The difference between varks renegades and IA13 renegades in short:

Varks are only nurgle and khorne, IA13 have all 4 gods.

Varks have some neat FOC options, while IA13 has the relic tanks.

Of the possible devotions:
Rouge Witch-psyker HQ can can spam psyker squads, a bit cheaper at varks, unfortunatly renegade psykers suck.
Mutant overlord-unique to IA13, the "melee assault horde" devotion, plays a bit like orks.
Master of the Horde-resurrecting lesser infantry spam, varks do it better thanks to unique FOC (unless you wanted T or S dudes)
Arch-Heretic-zealot dudes, lots of enforcers ("commisars"), dual god choice.
Heretek Magus-IA13 unique "darkmech light", makes your army a bit like chaos admech with walker acess, and FnP cybernetics.
Bloody Reaver-IA13 unique, much more like proffesional renegade IG than others, also has scions equivalents.
Ordnance Tyrant-varks unique, all the artillery you'll ever want. (far more than even DkoK can muster)
Shock Legion Taskmaster-varks unique, ogryn assault master. (a bit odd one)



Before you dive into shopping spree, do yourself a favor and read this:
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Renegades_and_Heretics%287E%29

It will make it easier to tell what you want, as there are TONS of options. renegades is a very versatile army that can go many, MANY viable paths, far more than their loyalist counterparts.



EDIT: BTW, in an odd twist of fate, the sentinal who is so god aweful for IG? probably the strongest heretic unit. a sentinal with a heavy flamer is mere 20 points, the BS reduced to 2 is irrelevant, it has a template gun anyway. (and even its lousy 10/10/10/2hp profile is nuts at mere 20 points.). no matter where you go, I'd suggest taking a good look on the possibility of running large numbers of these buggers.

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can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. 
   
Made in gb
Dakka Veteran






IA13 or IA5 2nd edition... Or get both. You will never look back, it is also a lot more competitive than Astra Militarum, barring battle brother shenanigans.
   
 
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