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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/18 06:57:53
Subject: Shooting over {past} melee
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Can a unit not involved in a melee shoot over/through a melee into a unit behind the melee not engaged in the melee?
If you can site a page number that would be great. Thx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/18 07:07:33
Subject: Shooting over {past} melee
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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True line of sight is all you need units will give 5+ cover. There are no exceptions for shooting trough combat.
Go and read the rulebook about cover and legal targets, I'm not going to read it for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/18 18:03:12
Subject: Shooting over {past} melee
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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oldzoggy wrote:True line of sight is all you need it units will give 5+ cover. There are no exceptions for shooting trough combat.
Go and read the rulebook about cover and legal targets, I'm not going to read it for you.
quoted for truth, grants cover but if you can see em you can shoot em if they aren't in combat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/19 07:04:05
Subject: Shooting over {past} melee
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Oldzoggy, pretty passive aggressive for a response don't you think? Couldn't just not type a response?
OP, if you can see them you can shoot them. 5+ cover for intervening models, unless of course, you or they are at a higher elevation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/19 08:43:34
Subject: Shooting over {past} melee
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This was in general discussions and was moved by the mods from general to YMDC.
The op clearly did not take the effort to read the book and asks us not only for the rule answer but also to point out why with page numbers his idea doesn't work
I answered the question. That is all what he can get. If he is too lazy to read the book I'm not going to read if for him and construct a page numbered referenced argument for his nonsense that will take me more time to figure out then it would take the op to read the fething rules in the first place.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/19 10:27:49
Subject: Shooting over {past} melee
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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oldzoggy wrote:True line of sight is all you need units will give 5+ cover. There are no exceptions for shooting trough combat.
Go and read the rulebook about cover and legal targets, I'm not going to read it for you.
oldzoggy wrote:This was in general discussions and was moved by the mods from general to YMDC.
The op clearly did not take the effort to read the book and asks us not only for the rule answer but also to point out why with page numbers his idea doesn't work
I answered the question. That is all what he can get. If he is too lazy to read the book I'm not going to read if for him and construct a page numbered referenced argument for his nonsense that will take me more time to figure out then it would take the op to read the fething rules in the first place.
If you are going to be rude you should probably be correct.
From 'Intervening Models' in the Shooting Phase section.
"Similarly, if a model fires through the gaps between models in an intervening unit, the target is in cover, even if it is completely visible to the firer."
True line of sight is not all you need.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/19 10:34:14
Subject: Re:Shooting over {past} melee
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Executing Exarch
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Do note that elevation also plays a part in the Intervening Models rule: Note that this does not apply if the shots go over the unit, either because the firer has an elevated position or is firing a Barrage weapon, rather than through it.
(as the title of the OP mentions "over").
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/20 19:45:06
Subject: Shooting over {past} melee
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Making Stuff
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oldzoggy wrote:This was in general discussions and was moved by the mods from general to YMDC.
The op clearly did not take the effort to read the book and asks us not only for the rule answer but also to point out why with page numbers his idea doesn't work
I answered the question. That is all what he can get. If he is too lazy to read the book I'm not going to read if for him and construct a page numbered referenced argument for his nonsense that will take me more time to figure out then it would take the op to read the fething rules in the first place.
'Go and read the rulebook' is not a constructive response. You could have pointed out the appropriate rules sections (which is all he asked for) without the rudeness.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/30 01:57:13
Subject: Re:Shooting over {past} melee
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Just want to make sure I have this straight, there are no rules regarding shooting past a ongoing melee into a unit behind said melee. Besides the normal intervening models rule on page 38.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/11/30 02:13:43
Subject: Shooting over {past} melee
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Melee can possibly block line of sight.
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