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Hey guys! New here so glad to be among you and hope you're all well!

So, I've recently ordered some Games Workshop Militarum Tempestus, and have 30 scions that I'd like to convert. I want to create helmets based on the attached (awesome) sci-fi painting. I was thinking the most accurate way to achieve this would be to hollow out a scion helmet, greenstuff a skull inside and paint it up with blue OSL. Then I'm not sure how to proceed, but think that I might be able to create the domed glass visor using water effects, but have never used that or clear resin before. Not sure whether it would be best to simply 'dip' the helmet into the some water effect liquid, or layer it up with a brush, or create a liquid effect cast and gently glue it onto the face. Also, as I've never used liquid effect products before, could anyone tell me what it is like dried? As in is it rubbery like a gel or does it dry as hard as plastic? Does it expand/shrink at all in the drying process?

What steps would you take if you wanted to create these helmets?

All advice welcome and thank you in advance.

Water effect gel does dry glass clear, but it also lets off gas as it cures, and the result is tiny bubbles in the final result.

Too much work me thinks.

First you would need to hollow one out, the helmet that is.

Then get a skull place it where the helmet would go make sure it would fit inside the helmet. Then paint it with osl from the back.

Then sculpt a piece that would fit in the helmet. Make a mold of it, both sides two part mold. Then cast it with clear resin or you can 1 side mold it but it will lack roundnedd. Also i preffer clear resin over water gel.

Alternatively, paint the skulls and cast them in a clear resin helmet, only painting the opaque parts.
You'd have to paint onto them in layers, but it could work.

Woof, that my friend is going to be a tough modeling challenge in heroic 28 mm scale.

For Scions, I would consider using their full helmeted heads and painting blue skulls over the face armor/front forward portion of the helmet, making sure you do black lenses (with some 'Ard Coat gloss over the lenses to make them shiny). It may not be the exact 'look' depicted above, but that kind of thing is going to be supremely difficult at the scale 40k operates in.

That's my recommendation anyway. I hope it helps, and do paint up an example to see how you like it and please share it here. I'd love to see some scions done up in this dark grey/black scale with the pop of blue on the head. I think it would look very cool.

Best of luck, and take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Alternatively, paint the skulls and cast them in a clear resin helmet, only painting the opaque parts.
You'd have to paint onto them in layers, but it could work.

Ooooh that's a brilliant idea! I think I'll give that a try. I think it'd be a pain at first creating a sprue and mold that holds the skulls at the right depth in the cast, but once that's done i should be able to knock them out pretty quickly. Can just paint the visor part with some Maskol and airbrush the helmet as normal.

So does anyone have any suggestions for clear resin brands? Preferably UK based.


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 Red__Thirst wrote:
Woof, that my friend is going to be a tough modeling challenge in heroic 28 mm scale.

For Scions, I would consider using their full helmeted heads and painting blue skulls over the face armor/front forward portion of the helmet, making sure you do black lenses (with some 'Ard Coat gloss over the lenses to make them shiny). It may not be the exact 'look' depicted above, but that kind of thing is going to be supremely difficult at the scale 40k operates in.

That's my recommendation anyway. I hope it helps, and do paint up an example to see how you like it and please share it here. I'd love to see some scions done up in this dark grey/black scale with the pop of blue on the head. I think it would look very cool.

Best of luck, and take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

If I can get it to work then I can't wait to share the painted minis with you. Black/dark grey schemes are always hard to pull off but hopefully with some nice OSL it'll work.

Alternatively, you could make the skull part of the mold, so that each visor comes out with a negative of the skull on the inside. Then when you paint the inside and turn it around you'll see a positive of the skull looking back through the clear visor. Similar to how animators paint on the back of clear acetate. Of course, you'd need to paint the shadows and the highlights before the base coat because you'd be layering backwards,

Negative skulls is a great idea, you can just cheat and drybrush the inside with black/dark blue then drown it in white/white blue for your shadows.

If this were me, and I REALLY wanted to do it, I'd dremel out one of their faces, jam a skull in there, then pack it with Miliputt/greenstuff. Smooth that out so it looks like a perfect dome from the outside, then pop that GS piece out and 2 part mold cast it.