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Title says it, I have finally decided I want to write actually decent background for my Dynasty including new units, formations, characters, etc.
I'm curious as how Dakka views such homebrewed things?
Don't worry, I'm not going to walk into my flgs and try to use them, it's conceptual.
That all being said, would Dakka enjoy reading about a homebrew dynasty?

Both my Space Marines and Eldar are home brewed. Fluff wise the Space Marines are a chapter that after suffering severe casualties the Imperium wrote off, but has since rebuilt itself, and has formed its own small region. It can hide itself as a "loyalist" within the massive engine that is the Imperium, or work against it when needed.

My Eldar belong to a small craftworld whose farseers saw their salvation as an allied force of the chapter. They have a secure region of space to operate in, and use their precognitive abilities to guide the two powers to continued survival.

I enjoy it for the flavor. I never really did things with unique units/rules and the like. If you've got a tight knit group that you play with, definitely talk it over with them though. Involve them in the development so you can try to keep things balanced and the like.

Anyone in the Crusade of Fury thread could probably tell you about mine... It really needs to be updated and fluff adjusted accordingly

Interesting, I had my Necrons ally with Tau, seeing their both non-psker armies.
It plays well, the Taus shoot while the Necrons go CC

I don't care about Chapter names, colors, history or events much, or the same for characters. When you start making up new units, though, and intend to use them in a game, that's where problems tend to arise, as homebrew units tend to be oversaturated with options, too cheap (points-wise) or slathered in SR while supposedly a "specialist" role.

I guess I use a few homebrew stuff (non-canon Captains and suchlike), but nothing major.

My Imperial Guard regiment I guess is homebrewed, the Cadian 13th, but they just have a different organisational structure and ranking.

Aside from that, I've created a lot of homebrew armies in fluff, such as the 501st Polonian Drop Infantry (whom I used during a session of Only War RPG) or some homebrewed Chapters who made their way into my Deathwatch Kill Team.

My general consensus on homebrew is: underplay them at the start. I've seen too many special snowflake, Mary Sue-esque homebrews that attempt to either break the setting by how they act, or just feel like blatant one-upmanship. Most of these tend to be Space Marine or Imperial Guard though, and most Necron ones have been very good!

I tend to go by the logic of "less is more": the less core changes there are, the less likely people will call you out on it. Still, we'd all love to see what you've got!

Well, like I said I'm not actually going to use them, it's completely conceptual

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I guess I use a few homebrew stuff (non-canon Captains and suchlike), but nothing major.

My Imperial Guard regiment I guess is homebrewed, the Cadian 13th, but they just have a different organisational structure and ranking.

Aside from that, I've created a lot of homebrew armies in fluff, such as the 501st Polonian Drop Infantry (whom I used during a session of Only War RPG) or some homebrewed Chapters who made their way into my Deathwatch Kill Team.

My general consensus on homebrew is: underplay them at the start. I've seen too many special snowflake, Mary Sue-esque homebrews that attempt to either break the setting by how they act, or just feel like blatant one-upmanship. Most of these tend to be Space Marine or Imperial Guard though, and most Necron ones have been very good!

I tend to go by the logic of "less is more": the less core changes there are, the less likely people will call you out on it. Still, we'd all love to see what you've got!

On a scale of 1 to mary sue, How mary sue is the New Order

on for a mary sue scale, Kaldor draigo - 2+ invuln on 2d6

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I guess I use a few homebrew stuff (non-canon Captains and suchlike), but nothing major.

My Imperial Guard regiment I guess is homebrewed, the Cadian 13th, but they just have a different organisational structure and ranking.

Aside from that, I've created a lot of homebrew armies in fluff, such as the 501st Polonian Drop Infantry (whom I used during a session of Only War RPG) or some homebrewed Chapters who made their way into my Deathwatch Kill Team.

My general consensus on homebrew is: underplay them at the start. I've seen too many special snowflake, Mary Sue-esque homebrews that attempt to either break the setting by how they act, or just feel like blatant one-upmanship. Most of these tend to be Space Marine or Imperial Guard though, and most Necron ones have been very good!

I tend to go by the logic of "less is more": the less core changes there are, the less likely people will call you out on it. Still, we'd all love to see what you've got!

On a scale of 1 to mary sue, How mary sue is the New Order

The New Order ?


As for the main topic, I obviously like homebrews as I'm struggling to making one myself (Had to rewrite the entire fluff to stay relevant on certain points)

The setting is intentionally open for players to make their own chapters, hive fleets, regiments and the like, and I see no harm in that. There's no reason why a homebrew chapter can't be as cool as any canon chapter with a little creativity.

I've got my own ork warband, but it basically functions like a regular ork army, and most of the fluff I make up is for important characters.

 LethalShade wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I guess I use a few homebrew stuff (non-canon Captains and suchlike), but nothing major.

My Imperial Guard regiment I guess is homebrewed, the Cadian 13th, but they just have a different organisational structure and ranking.

Aside from that, I've created a lot of homebrew armies in fluff, such as the 501st Polonian Drop Infantry (whom I used during a session of Only War RPG) or some homebrewed Chapters who made their way into my Deathwatch Kill Team.

My general consensus on homebrew is: underplay them at the start. I've seen too many special snowflake, Mary Sue-esque homebrews that attempt to either break the setting by how they act, or just feel like blatant one-upmanship. Most of these tend to be Space Marine or Imperial Guard though, and most Necron ones have been very good!

I tend to go by the logic of "less is more": the less core changes there are, the less likely people will call you out on it. Still, we'd all love to see what you've got!

On a scale of 1 to mary sue, How mary sue is the New Order

The New Order ?


As for the main topic, I obviously like homebrews as I'm struggling to making one myself (Had to rewrite the entire fluff to stay relevant on certain points)

Look into the Crusade of Fury in the Dakka Fiction sub forum. The New Order starts at pg 18ish

I'm quite fine with custom chapters/craftworlds/forces. When I get my DE built and painted I intend to make my own custom Kabal/Wych Cult (combined0

 War Kitten wrote:
I'm quite fine with custom chapters/craftworlds/forces. When I get my DE built and painted I intend to make my own custom Kabal/Wych Cult (combined0

Hows that working out for you?

I don't know TS, the DE are going to be a Christmas gift from my family, so I don't even have them yet. I'm working on my Eldar in the meantime. Got my other armies finished, so i'm working on my Eldar now.

 War Kitten wrote:
I don't know TS, the DE are going to be a Christmas gift from my family, so I don't even have them yet. I'm working on my Eldar in the meantime. Got my other armies finished, so i'm working on my Eldar now.

I'm either going to get a venerable to represent the "Executioner" or Assault centurians because Assault Centurians are super fluffy in the New Order

Im hoping to get enough for canoptek acanthrites, My Dynasty as 3 sections, The canoptek section, War engine section, and the Infantry legions section. I'm going to start writing. PM me if you want the full details as I probably wont be done untill tonight

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I don't know TS, the DE are going to be a Christmas gift from my family, so I don't even have them yet. I'm working on my Eldar in the meantime. Got my other armies finished, so i'm working on my Eldar now.

I'm either going to get a venerable to represent the "Executioner" or Assault centurians because Assault Centurians are super fluffy in the New Order

I'd say the Venerable most likely from what I've seen of the New Order.

What is this "New Order" and "Fiery Crusade"?

The New Order is the Marine Chapter that TS uses in the "Crusade of Fury" Fiction Thread. It's basically a made up Crusade that him, me, and several others take part in. You can go check it out in the Fiction section if you're interested.

Kharne the Befriender wrote:
What is this "New Order" and "Fiery Crusade"?

Crusade of Fury is an ongoing thread in Dakka Fiction featuring many different writers doing there own thing, while working for or against the Imperium's Crusade.

The New Order is TS's force, and does an outstanding job messing with all of us.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with Homebrew chapters and etc, as they bring something new to the universe. Of course, just don't get too carried away with the fluff, and they're completely fine by me.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:

Kharne the Befriender wrote:
What is this "New Order" and "Fiery Crusade"?

Crusade of Fury is an ongoing thread in Dakka Fiction featuring many different writers doing there own thing, while working for or against the Imperium's Crusade.

The New Order is TS's force, and does an outstanding job messing with all of us.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with Homebrew chapters and etc, as they bring something new to the universe. Of course, just don't get too carried away with the fluff, and they're completely fine by me.

That sounds quite exotic, I will look into it, thanks.

Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 2BlackJack1 wrote:

Kharne the Befriender wrote:
What is this "New Order" and "Fiery Crusade"?

Crusade of Fury is an ongoing thread in Dakka Fiction featuring many different writers doing there own thing, while working for or against the Imperium's Crusade.

The New Order is TS's force, and does an outstanding job messing with all of us.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with Homebrew chapters and etc, as they bring something new to the universe. Of course, just don't get too carried away with the fluff, and they're completely fine by me.

That sounds quite exotic, I will look into it, thanks.

New authors are always welcome.

Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 2BlackJack1 wrote:

Kharne the Befriender wrote:
What is this "New Order" and "Fiery Crusade"?

Crusade of Fury is an ongoing thread in Dakka Fiction featuring many different writers doing there own thing, while working for or against the Imperium's Crusade.

The New Order is TS's force, and does an outstanding job messing with all of us.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with Homebrew chapters and etc, as they bring something new to the universe. Of course, just don't get too carried away with the fluff, and they're completely fine by me.

That sounds quite exotic, I will look into it, thanks.

Do it. Some people would like a break to deal with real life.

Yes, it appears the Crusade of Fury hype squad has hijacked this thread.



Swiftly on topic, I say go for it! Fluffy is nearly always the best, as long as you understand what is and isn't okay to have in 40k Lore! (Female Space Marines is pretty taboo in general! )


What kind of stuff did you have in mind?

I want to enjoy homebrewed fluff, but I admit that I've never come across any that I've liked. Most of the time I try it's 'Mary Sue Marines who are the bestest and specialest Marines EVAH,' 'I'm-totally-not-ripping-off-some-other-franchise-just-dont-compare-my-chapter-symbol-to-the-X-Men-logo' marines, or a fifty page pile of typos and grammatical errors.

Even more than that is the 'So What?' factor that accompanies all franchise settings like 40k. It boils down to this: we know who the important factions, sub-factions, and characters are in 40k. If my (or your) creation were important, the story would be about them. So a homebrewed chapter (or dynasty) needs to be able to pass the 'so what?' test to be interesting, and unfortunately, no sooner do you manage to successfully fend off the 'so what?' test than you run afould of the 'Mary Sue' speedbump, at which point most offerings faceplant and break their own necks.

I like the IDEA of homebrewed factions, but rarely the execution. My preference is to run canon, fleshed out factions (Ultramarines, Sautekh Dynasty) followed by canon, obscure factions (Emperor's Spears Chapter, Kabal of the Bladed Lotus) and lastly by the ones we make up ourselves.

My Craftworld, Corsair, and Wych Cult allegiances are all my own made up factions though, so I can't really complain. (My Kabal, Coven, Harlequin, Space Marine, and Imperial Guard are canon.)

Sgt_Smudge wrote:Yes, it appears the Crusade of Fury hype squad has hijacked this thread.

Spoiler:

Sorry to continue on this off topic tangent, but if you are interested, don't hesitate to introduce your faction in the thread, or via PM to myself.
Hi, I'm Smudge, the guy with all the numbers, and President of the (late) Acting-Captain Aurelius fanclub.

Swiftly on topic, I say go for it! Fluffy is nearly always the best, as long as you understand what is and isn't okay to have in 40k Lore! (Female Space Marines is pretty taboo in general! )


What kind of stuff did you have in mind?

I'll PM you good sir.

Jimsolo wrote:I want to enjoy homebrewed fluff, but I admit that I've never come across any that I've liked. Most of the time I try it's 'Mary Sue Marines who are the bestest and specialest Marines EVAH,' 'I'm-totally-not-ripping-off-some-other-franchise-just-dont-compare-my-chapter-symbol-to-the-X-Men-logo' marines, or a fifty page pile of typos and grammatical errors.

Even more than that is the 'So What?' factor that accompanies all franchise settings like 40k. It boils down to this: we know who the important factions, sub-factions, and characters are in 40k. If my (or your) creation were important, the story would be about them. So a homebrewed chapter (or dynasty) needs to be able to pass the 'so what?' test to be interesting, and unfortunately, no sooner do you manage to successfully fend off the 'so what?' test than you run afould of the 'Mary Sue' speedbump, at which point most offerings faceplant and break their own necks.

I like the IDEA of homebrewed factions, but rarely the execution. My preference is to run canon, fleshed out factions (Ultramarines, Sautekh Dynasty) followed by canon, obscure factions (Emperor's Spears Chapter, Kabal of the Bladed Lotus) and lastly by the ones we make up ourselves.

My Craftworld, Corsair, and Wych Cult allegiances are all my own made up factions though, so I can't really complain. (My Kabal, Coven, Harlequin, Space Marine, and Imperial Guard are canon.)

I'm not a fan Mary-Sue-ish things, I like to make sure my things are balanced and fun.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Yes, it appears the Crusade of Fury hype squad has hijacked this thread.

Spoiler:

Sorry to continue on this off topic tangent, but if you are interested, don't hesitate to introduce your faction in the thread, or via PM to myself.
Hi, I'm Smudge, the guy with all the numbers, and President of the (late) Acting-Captain Aurelius fanclub.

Swiftly on topic, I say go for it! Fluffy is nearly always the best, as long as you understand what is and isn't okay to have in 40k Lore! (Female Space Marines is pretty taboo in general! )


What kind of stuff did you have in mind?

Happy to help Smudge.

I like it, so long as it isn't TO far from fluff or TO marry sue.


"here's my homebrew chapter, they were from one of the missing legions, are immune to most of the imperial rules, best buddies with a tau sept, eldar craft world, and have a pet 'Nid. Also, they are the best of the best, so much so that even Ultramarines look up to them in awe. They know all of the Imperium's Secrets, and have no flaws of their own" blech.

 Brennonjw wrote:
I like it, so long as it isn't TO far from fluff or TO marry sue.


"here's my homebrew chapter, they were from one of the missing legions, are immune to most of the imperial rules, best buddies with a tau sept, eldar craft world, and have a pet 'Nid. Also, they are the best of the best, so much so that even Ultramarines look up to them in awe. They know all of the Imperium's Secrets, and have no flaws of their own" blech.

... Nearly described my first rendition of my homebrew