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Here is my idea for a fun 30k traitor list. Id like to know what you guys think. I have all the models and some are converted very nicely to be more fluffy.

Death Guard
HQ-360pts
Calas Typhon
Rite of war: the reaping
3x Deathshroud
3x rad grenades


Troops- 570pts
Legion tactical squad
Sargent
Melta bombs
Rad grenade
Artificer armor
19x marines
Legion vexilla

Legion tactical squad
Sargent
Melta bombs
Rad grenade
Artificer armor
19x marines
Legion vexilla

Elites- 685
Apothicarion detachment
Apothicary
Artificer armor
Augury scanner
Rad grenades

Apothicary
Artificer armor
Augury scanner
Rad grenades

Apothicary
Artificer armor
Augury scanner
Rad grenades
Power sword

Contemptor talon- 260
1x legion contemptor
Chem munitions
2x dccw with heavy flamers
Drop pod

Contemptor mortis- 205
Dual kheres
Havoc launcher
Extra armor

Fast attack- 100
Anvillus pattern dreadclaw drop pod
Chem munitions

Heavy support- 660

Deredeo pattern dread
Aiolos missile launcher
Armored ceramite

4x grave wardens
1x chem master
Rad grenades

Sicaran battletank
Lascannon sponsons
Armored ceramite
Dozer blade
Auxillary drive


World eaters
Hq- 190
Kharn the bloody
Legacy of blood

Troops- 175
Sargent
Artificer armor
Melta bombs
Meteor hammer
7x Legion tactical support squad

Elites- 260
Legion contemptor talon
1x contemptor
2xdccw with heavy flamers
Drop pod

Total: 3000


The idea is for the worldeaters tactical support squad, kharn and the powersword apothicary to be in the anvillus drop pod. Them and the 2 drop pod dreads will drop behind enemy lines and buy time for my foot slogging tactical squads to get in range.

Im not as certain about how allied matrix or whatever and all works with 30k so i dont know if the world eaters can use a deathguard dreadclaw or have the death guard apothicary join them. But i like the idea of it.

Any input on this list would be great. Thanks!


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I forgot to add, if they allow a second rite of war for the allied detachment then i would choose the berserker assault but im not sure about that either

Most, but not all, ROW do not allow the primary legion detachment to use allied legions.

Mat

Ah i forgot about that. Luckily the reaping allows allies but berserker assault wouldnt. So id just use the reaping and nothing else

For you allied detachment, Tactical Support Squads can't be the compulsory troops if I am not mistaken due to the Support Squad special rule.

Dang, ok. Ill have to change that then.


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That brings up my next question then. Since im using the reaping rite of war, it unlocks vet tac squads for troops. Would that unlock it for the whole army or just the deathguard part of it?


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3000 calas and kharn (3000pts)
Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness)
HQ
Calas Typhon

Deathshroud Terminator Squad
3x Deathshroud Terminators, Rad Grenades
Master of the Legion
The Reaping

Troops
Legion Tactical Squad
19x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla

Legion Tactical Sergeant
Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, Rad Grenades

Legion Tactical Squad
19x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla

Legion Tactical Sergeant
Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, Rad Grenades

Elites
Apothecarion Detachment
Legion Apothecary
Artificer Armour

Legion Apothecary
Artificer Armour

Legion Apothecary
Artificer Armour, Power Sword

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon
Legion Contemptor Dreadnought
Chem-munitions, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, 2x Heavy Flamer

Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought
Two Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons

Heavy Support
Deredeo Pattern Dreadnought
Aiolos Missile Launcher, Armoured Ceramite

Grave Warden Terminator Squad
4x Grave Warden Terminator
Chem-master
Rad Grenades

Legion Sicaran Battle Tank
Armoured Ceramite, Lascannons


Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Allied Detachment)

HQ
Kharn the Bloody
Legacy of Blood

Elites
Contemptor Dreadnought Talon
Legion Contemptor Dreadnought
Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, 2x Heavy Flamer

Troops
Legion Tactical Squad
9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade
Legion Tactical Sergeant
Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs

Heavy Support
Legion Spartan Assault Tank
Armoured Ceramite, Twin-linked Heavy Flamer


Ok i changed around a few things.
Took away the drop pods and made it legal with a world eaters tactical squad instead of support squad. Added the spartan. I feel this list may be too slow but it does have alot of bodies so it might be able to do what death guard does best and just relentlessly march across the board