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Hi ladies and gentlemen!

I've had a play around with the KDK codex.
I've had a 2 year break from gaming so I'm a little rusty.
From what I can gather the KDK kick BUTT!
Here's my fist list I've sat down and wrote up. Constructive criticism welcome! I know a Landraider is a little bit unorthodox for a competitive list but I have reasons to believe that if you rock up to a tournament there's not many armies that are going to be able to cope with AV14 as well as 3 flyers and 3 grinders! The Landraider gives a surprise element and with 3 Terminators in it with lightning claws and bolter and a term camp with chainfist to pop some armour I believe the Landraider gives this list a bit of an edge and variance to other KDK lists. The ideas i have are to run the herald with the bikes. Fly around kicking Butt with the bloodthirster. 4 blobs of cultist to try hold objectives....then plenty of s7 48 inch fire power coming from the grinders ....Anyway let me get down to it. What do you think?

HQ 350
BLOODTHIRSTER unfettered fury
Herald on Jugger

TROOPS 274
Cultists 9
Cultists 10
Cultists 10
Cultists 10

ELITES 389
Terminators 4 (3 with LC) champion with chainfist
In Landraider

FAST 421
Helldrake baleflamer
Helldrake baleflamer
Bikes 3 champ with melta bombs

HEAVY 405
Grinder
Grinder
Grinder

The only thing i would drop are the termi n Land raider.

Yeah? Thanks filch. What's your thoughts on spending the extra 389? I thought maybe bulking up the bikers and maybe upgrade bloodthirster and add a cultist blob. I Do really like the Landraider option tho. There's not many armies that can chose to ignore the Landraider or have enough fire power to focus on 2 Helldrakes 1 bloodthirster 3 grinders with guns spare to try and pop the AV14. I'd like to think it's more of a distraction than a big game changer. Opponents just simply cannot ignore it and not many competitive lists come geared up with lots of s8 weaponry.

I agree with the termies in the LR it will likely not make its points back very often and will be a point sink to anyone with a few deep striking melta guns.

I've always thought the core of KDK melee should be flesh hounds. They are amazing for their points. I would also swap out the cultists for bloodletters are they can actually kill stuff and deep strike in where you need them (ideally)

Would also add the torrent flamer to your grinders and melta guns on your bikes.

Thanks slagmer. I don't know ya know. My thought of running a kdk army is more because I have an excuse to buy two bloodthirsters! One as a kick ass HQ and the other reason for running a KDK army......the bloodtithe bloodthirster! I want to get some flesh hounds in there...really I do...BUT! I have used up the 3 places in my fast attack on two Helldrakes and bikes. I can't fathom a reason to drop any one of them for the flesh hounds. The Helldrakes are self explanatory and the bikes work well with the herald giving him a purpose of sharing his fearless with them and making that unit one to fear rather than just fodder for the tithe table.

The torrent flamer was something I was considering but then I'm losing the whole reason of bringing the grinders to the table which is powerful long range punch.

I'd like to conduct an experiment on this whole flesh hounds or terminator squads. Both can deeps strike. Then they offer both different pros and cons. I'd like to see a group of 200 pt Terminators with pairs of lightening claws vs a 200 pt group of flesh hounds. I'm gunna run a few trials to see who comes out on top over there course of 10 or so fights.