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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 02:54:17
Subject: Planetary Invasions!!
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
octarius sector squishin bugz
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Out of all the races, who has the most effective tactic for Planetary Invasion? I am not asking for who can conquer the world with the least amount of troops, but who can deploy and start battle on the ground as well as deal crippling blows. I think orks cause of tellyportaz and cause of the amount of troops they have, but that is just me. Tyranids are up there though. What do you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 04:16:18
Subject: Planetary Invasions!!
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Necrons
Ex. Maynarkh Dynasty - The Orphean War
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Orphean_War
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 07:03:56
Subject: Re:Planetary Invasions!!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Probably Tyranids since unless you kill all of them, they can recover casualties.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 07:40:57
Subject: Re:Planetary Invasions!!
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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The legions of old? Only about 10000 sm in each one and they did the job quickly and effectively.
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His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 10:55:37
Subject: Planetary Invasions!!
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Necrons are at the top when it comes to speed and overwhelming power where-ever they strike. No other race has the technology to match them.
On the other hand, a proper Tyranid invasion has so many bodies that you simply cannot win without an Exterminatus-level event, and at that point "winning" is an academic distinction. The Tyranids aren't as fast as the Necrons, but you will drown in the tide eventually and there is nothing you can do about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 12:53:22
Subject: Planetary Invasions!!
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Hallowed Canoness
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Necrons have better teleporters than Orks, comparable numbers, and much more power on an individual basis.
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 13:23:14
Subject: Planetary Invasions!!
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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I would say Space Marines, they are designed for this (they even had a mission in their codex which was an orbital strike^^ )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 14:15:26
Subject: Re:Planetary Invasions!!
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Nerak wrote:The legions of old? Only about 10000 sm in each one and they did the job quickly and effectively.
10,000 was a small legion, like the Thousand Sons.
The Ultramarines were the largest post heresy with 200,000.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 14:26:15
Subject: Planetary Invasions!!
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Uhhh...Tyranids?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 20:03:30
Subject: Re:Planetary Invasions!!
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Crazyterran wrote:Nerak wrote:The legions of old? Only about 10000 sm in each one and they did the job quickly and effectively.
10,000 was a small legion, like the Thousand Sons.
The Ultramarines were the largest post heresy with 200,000.
10,000 was the standard per legion under the older fluff ~ at the time Ultramarines were 25,000, hence 25 successor chapters.
When the CCG came out Alan Merritt ( GW's head of IP) decided to retcon it to even the smallest legions being able to field around 100,000.
The Black Library novels are a mess as some authors were going off the old numbers and some off the new.
*but* under the new fluff the legions were scattered around dozens of expeditionary fleets, so the average legion planetary assault would be smaller than 10,000.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 21:08:44
Subject: Re:Planetary Invasions!!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Orks have the tendency to contaminate the planet with spores. Not sure if they are the best in invading a planet but they sure are hard to get rid of your planet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 21:13:43
Subject: Planetary Invasions!!
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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Dark Eldar are very efficient at invading planets, while they cant attack as well defended planets as other factions they can kidnap an entire population and leave without a trace.
There's also stories of Dark Eldar hiding whole systems behind stealth fields so they can freely raid them without any threat of counter attack.
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"If you can't keep up, go and join the Death Guard"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 21:58:51
Subject: Planetary Invasions!!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Lol they are horrible at invading. They might be one of the best raiders but raiding =/= invading. If they where good at invading half the galaxy would be under the Iron rule of a dark eldar kabal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 22:01:31
Subject: Planetary Invasions!!
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Taffy17 wrote:Dark Eldar are very efficient at invading planets, while they cant attack as well defended planets
So...they are bad at invading? If you can only attack undefended targets, your aren't a very good invader, are you?
I mean, that's like the baseline.
Its like claiming some guy is an excellent fighter because he can beat a crippled fellow senseless.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 22:20:41
Subject: Planetary Invasions!!
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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I didn't say they were good, i said they were efficient. And it depends on you're definition of good.
Space Marines invade a Tau world, an SOS gets out and the Tau send a fleet to counter and you end up in full scale war. Dark Eldar invades a Tau world and by the time anyone realises what's happened the population has long since been shipped back to commoragh to build an Archons next palace. Who's methods are better?
If the best is who can take a world quickest, probably go marines. The most destructive, probably 'nids. Most Stealthily, Dark Eldar.
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"That's how a Luna Wolf fights."
"If you can't keep up, go and join the Death Guard"
"It had often been said that Space Marines knew no fear, but when Angron charged, he ran" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/29 22:34:45
Subject: Re:Planetary Invasions!!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Crazyterran wrote:Nerak wrote:The legions of old? Only about 10000 sm in each one and they did the job quickly and effectively.
10,000 was a small legion, like the Thousand Sons.
The Ultramarines were the largest post heresy with 200,000.
Thousand sons have more that 80,000 marines at the mo, it's an indirect retcon from book 4 hh, or 3, can't remember, but the raven guard are stated as the smallest Legion pre heresy.
But your point is valid, marines pre heresy are the best hands down, even crons would have severe issues, nids would be a minor footnote in history.
Imagine 10,000 years of advancement and recruitment, the Ultramarines could have MILLIONS of space Marines ready to defend the eastern rim, as well as dark age level of tech, nids would be a joke.
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