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My son and I wanted to get started playing 40K but we don't have the patience for assembling and painting. So I purchased several Chaos Space Marine Armies and other Chaos items off eBay. We also purchased the blast templates, the codex, and 19mm, 16mm, 12mm, and 8 mm dice. I tried reading the codex and the rules and I cannot figure out what the next step is. Can someone help me turn these separate auction purchases into one cohesive army we can use to play at the local gaming store? What is the next step? I downloaded Battle Scribe and started to try and put it together but I didn't really get anywhere.

Thanks for your help!
 Filename Army List.pdf [Disk] Download
 Description Compilation of the Individual eBay Items I Bought
 File size 414 Kbytes

   
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Did you buy the actual rulebook?
   
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New Orleans

Yep. I bought the most recent edition rules book and the Chaos Space Marines Codex
   
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What all models did you get in the auctions? It'd be a great help to us who want to help if we knew what you are workinfgwith

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New Orleans

Thanks! Here is a list - the PDF attached to the original post has pictures Some are nurgle, some are iron warriors, some are just red or black. I am not sure if these will all work together and I am trying to figure out how to identify each one, and the weapons which seems necessary for Battle Scribe

Daemon Prince
Mutilators (Chaos Space Marines) (3)
Warhammer 40K Forge World Chaos Dreadnought (1)
Nurgle themed Chaos Space Marine Hellbrute (1)
Chaos Space Marine with the Mark Of Nurgle (1)
10 Nurgle Plague Marine Chaos Daemons Space BANNER conversion
1 Plague Hulk (Maggoth Lord/Soul Grinder conversion)
1 Mauler Fiend w/ custom tentacles
1 Nurgle Prince (Citadel Finecast)
1 Hell Brute w/ custom nurgle sculpting
1 Chaos Lord w/custom nurgle sculpting
1 Aspiring Champion
6 Chaos Chosen
20 Imperial Guard Zombies (full conversion)
10 Plague bearers
1 Typhus
1 Chaos Sorcerer w/custom nurgle sculpting
5 Terminators w/custom Nurgle sculpting
1 Warpsmith (full conversion)
3 Warp Talons w/nurgle sculpting

Iron Warriors Army
3 Iron warriors with Autocannons
1 Iron warrior with Heavy Bolter
4 Iron warriors with Laser Cannons
1 Iron warrior with Meltagun
1 Iron warrior with Powersword (magnetized arm so it’s swappable)
6 Iron warriors- made to be 5 man stand alone unit or to make increase Havoc squad to 10 man
1 Rhino
2 Defilers- Autocannons- Both have magnetized close combat arm and waist for transport and pose ability
6 Custom Obliterators
9 Chosen with Rhino and primed silver only. 5 have meltaguns and Rhino has magnetized TL bolters.

Chaos Space Marines Army

9 Raptors
3 Obliterators
5 Chaos Spawn
1 Heldrake
1 Maulerfiend
2 Rhinos
5 Terminators
1 Sorceror On Disc
1 Sorceror In Terminator Armor
20 Cultists
21 Chaos Space Marines
5 Chaos Chosen
6 Bikes
1 Daemon Prince
1 Huron Blackheart
1 Aspiring Champion

Chaos Decimator Demon Engine - Looks like a Forge World Sculpt
Chaos Obliterated Terminator Master Possessed
Vindicator with possessed conversions
Chaos Space Marines w/ 3 missile launchers
Chaos Space Marine Army (10)
Chaos Space Marine army w/ skull heads (6)
Chaos Marine Squad (10)
Chaos Marines Squad (9)
Chaos Marine Converted Chosen possessed army


   
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First off: wow.
So you seem to have just about everything you can, and what you don't have is easily enough proxied by what you do have.
To start, i would first come up with a 1,000 point army list for each of you. To be honest, i thought you meant you just got a few kits that someone had already made, not multiple armies lol.
Follow the "1 hq, 2 troops" to start and give you something to grow with. Chaos marines have a few options on how to play based on what you like to do:
Rush forward and kill everything in sight
Sit back, score objectives and never die
Gunline with infiltrators and deepstrikers
Here are some thoughts i have on Marks:
Khorne gives your melee units some extra punch, but only when they charge, so this is best kept on a unit that will destroy what it comes into contact with in the first couple rounds of combat, so they can quickly move to the next target.
Tzeentch gives just a little more survivability. Best put on a unit that already has an invulnerable save, like terminators, possessed marines, or anything with the Daemon special rule as they have a 5+ invulnerable save and making it a 4+ gives them a 50/50 chance of surviving anything.
Nurgle makes your stuff harder to get wounded. A basic marine with toughness 4 gets wounded by a marine's basic gun, the bolter, on a 4, 5, or 6. With mark of nurgle making your guys toughness 5, bolters qound only on a 5 or 6 making the odds that much better Against staying on the field. Another thing toughness 5 gives you is immunity to instant death by anything with a strength less than 10, this means your chaos lord, or anything with multiple wounds, doesn't get taken off the field by taking only 1 shot that is strength 8
Slaanesh makes your guys faster in close combat. This will generally mean you hit before anything that isn't Eldar, Dark Eldar, or Tyranids. And even then, you might be hitting at the same time (Still a great thing).

Named characters- i don't recommend using any of these guys until you have a very solid idea of where yoy want your army to go AND until you have a few games under your belt. Reason being that they are very specifically geared towards doing something (killing stuff like Kharn or Abbadon) or affecting your army in a specific way that could change how your army plays before the first turn (Typhus, Huron, Ahriman).

Now, those are just some basics that i have learned from my experience, results may vary depending on where you play.

Personally, i would forget about using battlescribe right off the bat and stick with pen and paper. Yeah, its not as technical as scribe, but itll help you list out exactly what you have, and THEN use battle scribe to double check your points values and weapon options. The way i write mine is in a notebook specifically for my 40k lists, this way im organized and can look back at previous things I've tried out and remember how they went. I just write down each unit, the upgradee im giving it (including dedicated transports if any) and the prices for everything, and i mean everything, and then write the unit's totql cost below it, highlighted or circled in som3 way. With each unit i write down, i give it some space in case i want to change a few things, but i hold off on changing things until after i write down every unit i want to play with that i think i have room for. If i go over the points total, then i have everything broken down for me and its cost so i can trim as i need.
After you fet a familiar way of writing your lists, play a couple if skirmishes with your son, or go to your local gaming store that sells Games Workshop models, they'll generally have players that come to the store, or they know another store in the area that does.
Another thing i would suggest after you get familiar with your models, and the terminology, would be to use YouTube and forums like this and do your research. People have been playing this game for years ane many of us are very willing to help out new players, its a lot of fun to look at your pupil and remember what it was like when your first started.
A couple of YouTube channels i suggest are:
40kfritz: this guy has been building a chaos army for the past year or so and has been sharing his experiences and thoughts on them ane how he plays. He also throws up videos where he analyzes certain aspects or army buids in the game.
Commissar Gamza: this guy also throws up tactical ideas, and something that i personally enjoy: he shows you how to have your mind in gear for games, hes talked about using models or units that you personally enjoy having just to keep your own confidence up, which is very cool.
Another channel is Miniwargaming. They have battle reports, which are just videos of people playing the game. They even have a beginner series where they show yiu how to play. Battle reports are a grewt resource, so you can learn new things about your army, and maybe youll even see someone running a strategy, or something close to, what you want to run anr this way you can see it in action!
Protip: your first dozen games don't count. This is something that each and every one of us that play this game know in our hearts. For your first dozen games, you are learning the game, the mechanics, your army, keeping track of all the bookkeeping involved in the fame AND trying to pull off a win. Its a lot of pressure, don't sweat it and just use that time to learn.
Alright, im going to bed, it's late where I am. I hope this helps, and let me know if there's anything else you need help with!

(Not to selfishly promote, but: Check out my blog, I've recently started it up and ive been trying to post tactics, quick tips, and some pictures or my own models. My40klife.blogspot.com)

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I would suggest that both of you play the same exact army list for the first few games while you're learning. It will help you learn how the units work faster but it also helps to keep the game fairer while you still figuring out how to play it.

Also i second not using battle scribe at first. It a crutch but it also isn't 100% accurate (being an unoffical program). Its better to learn strait from the source.
   
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New Orleans

Thank you so much! I guess my main concern was having an army with several different factions painted on them and unlike some of the armies I have seen none of my stuff matches because it was purchased from several different eBayers.

How can I identify these different weapons? Some of these squads of 10 seem to have 4 or 5 different weapons. The codex only has 4 pictures of the guns. Does all these different weapons affect our ability to use them? It looks like these have different ranges.

Also how can I tell which ones are the champions of each squad?


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Nevermind. I figured out that the weapons are in the instructions when you purchase new models. I am going to need to find the instructions for some things I don't have. Guess a first army shouldn't be purchased second hand, smh.

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Don't worry about it too much, most people should be coming dpwn on you Because a couple.of your guys don't have the right guns. Especially since you bought all your stuff on eBay, you couldn't have controlled what the original owners modeled them with. Same goes for the paint job. With chaos marines, you can seriously justify different color schemes as different warbands metting up at the same place, not a problem at all


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As for figuring out who are your champions, just oick a model that you think looks like they're worthy of leading a squad, lol. Or mark them in some way. When i s are arted out, i would put a dot of gold paint on the base of my commanders and sergeants to tell them apart. You could do prettt much the same thing with a silver sharpie if you want

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