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I'm trying to make a list of all the beings that could be considered gods in the 40k universe and of their known wherabaouts. I'm not including the dead ones. Please help me correct this because I'm not really up to date on the most recent fluff, particurlarily concerning the C'tan.
Edit: Updated it a bit.

Mankind:
The Emperor -Patron entity of humanity, Encased in the golden throne, shining in the warp. (-Star Child)

Chaos:
Tzeentch -Chaos god of change, Resides in his realm in chaos.
Slaanesh -Chaos god of pleasure, Resides in his realm in chaos.
Nurgle -Chaos god of pestilence, Resides in his realm in chaos.
Khorne -Chaos god of war, Resides in his realm in chaos.
Malal/Malice -Chaos god, opposes the other four, imprisoned in the warp.
Valoscht -Chaos god, Patron of the soul forge, Resides in his realm in chaos.

Eldar:
Isha -Goddess of life, Imprisoned by Nurgle.
Kaela mesha Khaine -God of war, splintered amongst the craftworlds.
Cegorach -Laughing god, Lord of the webway and keeper of the black library.
Ynnead -God of death, unborn, cradled in the webway.

Hrud:
Quah -He who lingers, Residing in his Umbra

Orks:
Gork -Brutal but cunnin', Warp entity.
Mork -Cunnin' but brutal, Warp entity.

Tyranids:
The Hive mind -Unkown.

C'tan:
The Nightbringer -The C'tan of death, actively waging wars.
The Deciever -The C'tan of trickery, last seen close to the Eye of terror.
The Void Dragon -The C'tan of the machine, beaten by the Emperor, sleeps in Mars.
The Outsider -The C'tan of insanity, Sleeps outside our galaxy, has been actively avoided by Tyranids.
The Burning one -The C'tan of fire, splintered, shards in control of the necrons.
The Worldmaker -The C'tan responsible for the World Engine. Presumably left the galaxy.
The Enldess swarm -Unkown. (-name implies a link with the tyranids).

And that is that. I assume I've missed a bunch of C'tan so if anyone can help me on that front It'd be much appreciated. I'm also having doubts about malal, is he still a thing? Also is there any fluff concerning what Gork and Mork actually are?

C'Tan aren't actually gods. The Necrontyr simply called them that for awhile, until they knew better. It should also be noted that almost all of the C'Tan are sharded now.

Does that go for the previous 4 C'tan specials? Nightbringer, Deciever, Void dragon and Outsider?

I actually debated whenver or not to put the C'tan up there but at least according to some older stuff they are pretty much gods. Figured if I put khaine up there I have to put these splintered guys there as well.

Not really, as Khaine was a God, and the C'tan never were Gods. They had power equivalent to Gods, but they were not.

All the C'tan were broken into shards. An issue of White Dwarf made as much clear after the 5th edition Necron codex was released.

Malal doesn't exist. Instead there is Malice, a lesser god or greater entity of the warp. Has a single warband dedicated to it and the last piece of literature I ever came across regarding him years ago had the warband successfully summoning him into the physical universe.

 King Pariah wrote:
All the C'tan were broken into shards. An issue of White Dwarf made as much clear after the 5th edition Necron codex was released.

Malal doesn't exist. Instead there is Malice, a lesser god or greater entity of the warp. Has a single warband dedicated to it and the last piece of literature I ever came across regarding him years ago had the warband successfully summoning him into the physical universe.

I Heard somewhere that he was written back into the fluff but was put into imprisonment or exile, can I get a source on this? Malice sounds like a undivided greater deamon.

I feared the question "what is a god" would arise from this. As far as I'm concerned longlivety and power should be enough. We know gods can be born, die and splinter themselves. This is true for all of the above. The chaos gods have the ability to bestow their own power on their subjects, the eldar gods can clearly splinter as Khaine did and the Emperors souls is splintered in the warp. From what I gather the C'tan seems very much to fit the bill. The one thing the C'tan lack that all the other gods display is an ability to interact with the warp. They where aware of this and put focus on destroying it so, y'know, that would make them the only gods in the universe, except maybe for the hive mind.

Also, at least in the old codex, it said that the living creatures doesn't really fear death, they fear the Nightbringer. His reign was such that he lived on in the genetic code of all living things, becoming synonymous with death. If this is canon then the only explanation I can think of is that his deeds were so immense and prolongoed over such a timespan that it resonated in the warp, creating a abstract entity of himself that remained in all living things as a remainder that the reaper means death. That's pretty god.

Yes, they were godlike.
But in 40k, Gods are typically bound to the warp, something the Ctan were certainly not. They were masters of the material realm, sure, but their influence beyond that was practically nil. Whereas the actual gods were capable of feats both within and without the Warp.

I'd say C'Tan fall into the catagory of Gods in the same way the Chaos Gods are Gods of the Warp, C'Tan could've been seen of Gods of Materium, the laws of nature were theirs to control.

The only important C'Tan your missing is Llandu'gor, the Flayer. He was destroyed utterly by the Necrons and he was the one who inflicted the Flater curse upon the Necrons. I can understand not including him because he id dead, but his death did have concequences.

Your missing Quah, He who Lingers. He is the god of the Hrud, much like Khaine he is a splintered god, residing within his Umbra. However Quah unlike Khaine IS sentient, and is reforming.

other then that it seems about right. Perhaps include Valoscht the Maker, Patron of the Soul Forge. He isn't beholden to any Chaos God has about as much if not more power then Malal, so it's only right to include him.

Nerak wrote:

Ynnead -God of death, unborn. (-may be the Emperor).

I have to ask where this idea comes from; it seems a bit farfetched. As far as I knew the Corpse Emperor was siting upon his Golden throne and Ynnead was being formed within the Craftworlds Infinity Circuits and by extension the Webway. Ynnead is being formed using Eldar soul’s not human soul's that now reside within the Infinity Circuit that have been added over the past 10,000 years. How are the two supposedly connected?

The C'tan are the corporeal equivalence of the Chaos Gods. The former are the most powerful beings in the material universe, but hold zero power on the Warp, the realm where the Chaos Gods rule.

You can't really say who's more powerful in this case as their power isn't comparable given the limitations they have.

The question is what actually qualifies a god being a god - while the C'tan are the most powerful corporeal beings that exist, they don't have any actual worshippers / believers, instead, they effectively killed all of the Necrontyr and Necrons, being the soulless automatons they are, cannot worship anything. So all in all, I wouldn't call them "gods". They were seen as gods by the Necrontyr, but given that they no longer exist, I don't think should be labelled gods with noone believing into them and them not actively wanting to be worshipped either.

Depends on your preferred fluff for the C'Tan, and your definition of Gods. I prefer the older fluff for Necrons personally.

C'Tan are super intelligent, immortals (unless devoured by another C'Tan) that have powers to bend reality via sheer will. Vs. Chaos Gods who are nearly super intelligent (Super of Tzeench), immortals (unless devoured by another chaos born being) that have powers to warp reality through chaos/warp powers. VS. Eldar Gods (also born of the power of chaos/warp) who are super intelligent, immortals (unless devoured by another chaos born being) that have powers of some sort. Unknown if Eldar Gods could bend/warp reality but we do know the had immense prophetic and mental powers.

We know C'Tan shatter into shards when defeated and can be called apon in a lesser form. Khaine also was like this, Slaanesh for some reason was not able to devour him.

Sounds like gods to me

Depending on how far back you go in fluff writing the Emperor is not a god, he himself state so. The religion to worship him was set down by the Lords of Terra to control the IOM.


Additional Eldar Gods
Asuryan, the Phoenix King (Zeus of the Eldar Gods)
Vaul god of the forge
Kurnous god of hunt
Lileath moon goddess? not sure

Brother-Redemptor wrote:

Nerak wrote:

Ynnead -God of death, unborn. (-may be the Emperor).

I have to ask where this idea comes from; it seems a bit farfetched. As far as I knew the Corpse Emperor was siting upon his Golden throne and Ynnead was being formed within the Craftworlds Infinity Circuits and by extension the Webway. Ynnead is being formed using Eldar soul’s not human soul's that now reside within the Infinity Circuit that have been added over the past 10,000 years. How are the two supposedly connected?

Whilst I don't agree or disagree with the original point. Eldar supply the chaos gods with well, whatever it is that mortals do that empower the chaos gods in the warp, emotions etc etc. Eldar created Slanesh, yet Slanesh is sustained also by other races, humans being the other notable one. Theoretically then, if Eldar souls are creating Ynnead, other souls could be also. Another factor is the warp presence of Eldar gods, now I could be wrong here, but assuming they do have a warp signature, it bears to reason that the things that make said god grow stronger, could be contributed to by humans also.

That is all hypothetical, and to be honest, I'm not very hot on Eldar fluff or how their gods works or are powered.

As far I read the Chaos Gods do not require followers for strength there power is absolute regardless of having worshipers. But the Eldar Gods did need worshipers for strength, one of the reasons Slannesh was able to defeat them all was very few Eldar were actively believing in them, which weakened them. Slannesh was also super strong at birth, via souls of millions of Eldar.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:

Brother-Redemptor wrote:

Nerak wrote:

Ynnead -God of death, unborn. (-may be the Emperor).

I have to ask where this idea comes from; it seems a bit farfetched. As far as I knew the Corpse Emperor was siting upon his Golden throne and Ynnead was being formed within the Craftworlds Infinity Circuits and by extension the Webway. Ynnead is being formed using Eldar soul’s not human soul's that now reside within the Infinity Circuit that have been added over the past 10,000 years. How are the two supposedly connected?

Whilst I don't agree or disagree with the original point. Eldar supply the chaos gods with well, whatever it is that mortals do that empower the chaos gods in the warp, emotions etc etc. Eldar created Slanesh, yet Slanesh is sustained also by other races, humans being the other notable one. Theoretically then, if Eldar souls are creating Ynnead, other souls could be also. Another factor is the warp presence of Eldar gods, now I could be wrong here, but assuming they do have a warp signature, it bears to reason that the things that make said god grow stronger, could be contributed to by humans also.

That is all hypothetical, and to be honest, I'm not very hot on Eldar fluff or how their gods works or are powered.

I had a quick search and came across the Ynnead = the Star Child theory but it seems a bit paper thin too me, but to each their own I suppose.

The Eldar's relationship with the Chaos Gods, even their own Gods has never as far as i can remember been fully explained or explored in any great detail. Heck even the Eldar refer to Khorne as khaine's "hated father". I have absolutely no problem with other race's belief and worship strengthening the Eldar gods It would be like when the Roman Empire conquered a new territory and the locals then abandon their old gods for the brand new and apparently more powerful and therefore more worthy gods.

The thing with Ynnead as far as i know is that because the Webway is more or less acting as a womb for the new god it would be very difficult if not nye on impossible for any other souls apart from the Eldar to get into the mix.

 Rune Stonegrinder wrote:


Sounds like gods to me

Aye, that is my point - the definition of a god. The C'tan are the strongest corporeal beings and definitely have the power of gods. With them not having any worshippers, however, and them not wanting any either, where do you draw the line between an extremely powerful being and a god? To me, personally, a god always has a following.

...on the other hand, though, technically, The Void Dragon has supporters / worshippers, the Adeptus Mechanicus.

Are we talking actual gods or things that are just worshiped as gods?

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Rune Stonegrinder wrote:


Sounds like gods to me

Aye, that is my point - the definition of a god. The C'tan are the strongest corporeal beings and definitely have the power of gods. With them not having any worshippers, however, and them not wanting any either, where do you draw the line between an extremely powerful being and a god? To me, personally, a god always has a following.

...on the other hand, though, technically, The Void Dragon has supporters / worshippers, the Adeptus Mechanicus.

meh I guess but wanting them and needing them are two different things.

The C'Tan had them and Chaos have them, but don't need them, their powers are absolute regardless.

Where the Eldar created their own gods, and are dependent on followers for strength.


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 Formosa wrote:
Are we talking actual gods or things that are just worshiped as gods?

If both have the same powers to warp and bend reality; some being more powerful than others, what's the difference. I'm saying none

 Rune Stonegrinder wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Rune Stonegrinder wrote:


Sounds like gods to me

Aye, that is my point - the definition of a god. The C'tan are the strongest corporeal beings and definitely have the power of gods. With them not having any worshippers, however, and them not wanting any either, where do you draw the line between an extremely powerful being and a god? To me, personally, a god always has a following.

...on the other hand, though, technically, The Void Dragon has supporters / worshippers, the Adeptus Mechanicus.

meh I guess but wanting them and needing them are two different things.

The C'Tan had them and Chaos have them, but don't need them, their powers are absolute regardless.

Where the Eldar created their own gods, and are dependent on followers for strength.


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 Formosa wrote:
Are we talking actual gods or things that are just worshiped as gods?

If both have the same powers to warp and bend reality; some being more powerful than others, what's the difference. I'm saying none

Reality bending doesn't make you a god, creating a complete reality, as in universe, makes you a god, creating actual life, physics etc. Makes you a god, being the master of the physical realm that was created by someone else doesn't make you a god, for both deamons and c'tan, deamons are created by sentient races, thus are slaves, they cannot create realities, just warp what's already there, c'tan as far as I'm aware cannot do any of the above, Necrons can enter other dimensions, that's about it, also, immortality, which not a single "god" in 40k has.

They are all just vastly powerful beings in there own right.

That's your personal definition of a god. If we take Oxford's definition...

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/god

[...]a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity:

...then the C'tan are gods. It's a very debatable issue as the question whether you would consider them gods or not depends entirely on your very own definition. Your very own definition in this very case would also contradict a lot of actual deities we know outside the 40k universe.

“What is a God” how is it that a table top game played with plastic soldiers and dice can inspire such a profound question.

I just had a thought regarding the Eldar Gods . What if their strength wasn’t dependent upon the number of worshipers but more upon the overall number of Eldar souls?

Both slaanesh and Ynnead both started out like something you could describe as a “composite being”. Slaanesh for example was originally made out of countless “tainted” Eldar souls that where drawn together within the Warp to create a single Entity, slowly drawing greater and greater numbers of souls to it as it grew in size and magnitude until finally becoming a sentient being in its own write. Ynnead is being formed in a similar manner but safe within the Webway, so what if the other gods of the Eldar pantheon where the same and where themselves made up of the souls of the Eldar that had been drawn together within the Warp. I can imagine that during the war in heaven a great number of Eldar souls would end up returning to the Warp and I doubt they were in any great hurry to return.

The souls of the Eldar before the fall were apparently able to enter the Warp without being harassed by the other denizens of that realm, and were said to have interacted with their gods before returning to the material universe. So what if when an Eldar soul returns to the mortal realm the Eldar gods where actually diminished because of it. Normally the souls leaving for the mortal realm would be balanced out by the souls re-entering the Warp to re-join their Gods but with Slaanesh drawing all the fresh souls entering the Warp upon their deaths towards itself and away from the other Gods it was in effect starving the Eldar Pantheon of what they needed to exist whilst they themselves where still growing weaker as the souls that comprised their being where slowly syphoned off as more Eldar where being born.

 Rune Stonegrinder wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Rune Stonegrinder wrote:


Sounds like gods to me

Aye, that is my point - the definition of a god. The C'tan are the strongest corporeal beings and definitely have the power of gods. With them not having any worshippers, however, and them not wanting any either, where do you draw the line between an extremely powerful being and a god? To me, personally, a god always has a following.

...on the other hand, though, technically, The Void Dragon has supporters / worshippers, the Adeptus Mechanicus.

meh I guess but wanting them and needing them are two different things.

The C'Tan had them and Chaos have them, but don't need them, their powers are absolute regardless.

Where the Eldar created their own gods, and are dependent on followers for strength.

I thought the chaos gods power differed at times though, and their is a hierarchy between them? Khorne being historically the top boy, but nurgle and tzeentch having had their moments, with tzeentch usually brining upon it's own topple from the top due to it't nature to constantly tinker?

Is that wrong? Is it something I just have happened to read on here, or is it old canon?

Might I add, the one major influence in their ability to grow in power was the amount of followers they had and how those followers were acting, their actions, emotions, influence was directly feeding their patron chaos god, causing the individual gods power to grow.

That makes perfect sense to me also, mostly due to how daemons are summoned into the material realm, a certain amount of actions and devotion has to be contributed by the followers to bring a greater daemon into the material realm for example. And it isn't just a one way street, the followers need to show they are worthy just as much as the daemon needs that devotion to be able to break into and be sustained in the mortal realm. Like Angron on Armageddon, he required so much devotion from his followers just to be able to stay in the mortal realm, he had to dedicate portions of his armies to overseeing vast and huge temples to khorne/himself so his presense wouldn't become unstable.

Nerak wrote:

Orks:
Gork -Brutal but cunnin', Warp entity.
Mork -Cunnin' but brutal, Warp entity.

Gork and Mork should be the other way around

 Sigvatr wrote:
That's your personal definition of a god. If we take Oxford's definition...

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/god

[...]a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity:

...then the C'tan are gods. It's a very debatable issue as the question whether you would consider them gods or not depends entirely on your very own definition. Your very own definition in this very case would also contradict a lot of actual deities we know outside the 40k universe.

Yeah that extends outside 40k too, but not gonna go down the "gawd is real" route, I'm simply saying that there are no gods in 40k, at all, there are supernatural beings worshiped as gods, but that doesn't make then so, also if you go by that definition, then space Marines are gods.

Superhuman feats, check
Worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes check
Some even see them as deitys, even more so the primarchs.

One of the biggest ironies of the hh is that lorgar went looking for gods, and found massively powerful warp parasites with a degree of sentience, but believes them gods due to his very limited understanding of the warp, so he threw away one master who refused to be called a god, to take another that claimed it was a god, but isn't.

 Formosa wrote:

Reality bending doesn't make you a god, creating a complete reality, as in universe, makes you a god, creating actual life, physics etc. Makes you a god, being the master of the physical realm that was created by someone else doesn't make you a god, for both deamons and c'tan, deamons are created by sentient races, thus are slaves, they cannot create realities, just warp what's already there, c'tan as far as I'm aware cannot do any of the above, Necrons can enter other dimensions, that's about it, also, immortality, which not a single "god" in 40k has.

They are all just vastly powerful beings in there own right.

Monotheism Vs. Polytheism (and other similar types)

In many polytheism religions (not all) the universe was already in existence, no "god" created it, it just was. Sometimes gods were mortals that attained godhood, sometimes they were born of unknown origin or by other super beings that were as constant as the universe. So, again it depends on how you define a god. Since this is a Sci-Fi, with a little Fantasy, genre and polytheism seems to be the trend across most races. They are Gods and creating reality or even life is not needed.

Where's the Machine God?

Who is Malal? I have never heard of him.

Chaos Spawn wrote:Where's the Machine God?

It's pretty much confirmed that the Omnissiah as a being is the Ctan Void Dragon, imprisoned on Mars.

Tactical_Spam wrote:Who is Malal? I have never heard of him.

The Chaos God of Chaos. Actually fights other chaos forces, but has very little power.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

Tactical_Spam wrote:Who is Malal? I have never heard of him.

The Chaos God of Chaos. Actually fights other chaos forces, but has very little power.

Are you sure he exists? He doesn't seem like a real chaos god

His copyright was lost to a comic book company so he doesn't exist any more, but he used to in 2nd edition or somewhere around there.

 Chaos Spawn wrote:
His copyright was lost to a comic book company so he doesn't exist any more, but he used to in 2nd edition or somewhere around there.

He hasn't existed ever

Malal/Malice is the chaos god of unbelief, thus he himself does not exist and has no followers