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die toten hosen wrote:

 Musashi363 wrote:
The chaos fluff doesn't fit the rules. Khorne berzerkers = scariest close combat units. however they are pretty gacky. Tzeentch sorcerers = masters of the secrets of sorcery....meh...they are ok. chaos space marines are veterans of thousands of years of non stop combat...they are worse than normal marines.

Thats a pretty weak argument. It isn't even centric to just CSM.
When does the fluff ever 100% of the time reflect every single unit in the codex?

every argument i see from CSM players turns into "why am i not OP!?" or "remember 3.5!!" sorry no.

What argument are you reading where chaos players say they want to be OP?

The only argument is "we want flavour, like what 3.5 had".

Current book doesn't do heresy vets very well, it doesn't do recently turned to chaos very well, it doesn't even do heavily invested in chaos very well.

I could care less about the power level, if the chaos codex had 1 fifth the flavour of the regular marine book, I'd be much happier.