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 Jancoran wrote:
I own...so ..many...meltagun sisters. that should be fun.

I think most people do Hopefully storm bolters may be good as well - I have ALOT of storm bolter sisters benched.

I've never actually purchased a storm bolter sister.

 deviantduck wrote:
I've never actually purchased a storm bolter sister.

Nobody does you just acquire them somehow begrudgingly

Until SB sisters turn out to be super awesome, I'll consider myself lucky to have only acquired two of them. I was going to convert them to another weapon, but I guess I'll hold off for the moment in case I need them as a sergeant upgrade.

They are good for making combi-weapons out of.

I've been using my inferno pistols to make Combi-meltas, still have a few left, but I'm wondering if I should be saving them for characters and seraphim considering the proposed change to pistol rules.

AHHH, combi weapons AND pistols both sound great! Especially against things like dreadnoughts trying to tie up squads.

 deviantduck wrote:
I've never actually purchased a storm bolter sister.

Having bought two full armies on ebay I have about 20

 deviantduck wrote:
I've never actually purchased a storm bolter sister.

Well there was a time when you really could walk a horde of sisters forward and a 24 inch two shot bolter on the move was pretty cool. Not to mention that the power curve was nothing like it is now, so STR 4, AP 5 weapons meant something at that point.

they use to ONLY sell the Special weapons in two packs and it was like, a Stormbolter sister and a Melta so you had to buy more packs ot get the stinking meltas. Given that, you saw a lot more Storm Bolter sisters.

The original sister box set used to contain a flamer, a stormbolter and a chainsword / plasma pistol sergeant.

Every veteran collector is going to easilly have 5+ stormbolters lying around given how cheap those boxes were compared to now.

Stormbolters should be free upgrades for celestians, battle sisters and command squads.

All members of dominions and retributors should have the option to replace the bolter to a stormbolter for free and then have their other appropriately costed options to upgrade their weapons.

I have never fielded a single one of my stormbolter. I might not field them even if they were free, but at least the option would be there.


If they want to truely want to make the weapon interesting in 8th edition it needs to go somewhat in this direction:

range 24, assault 2, str 4, rend -1

If they do not drastically make a change to it, it doesnt matter how low it will be costed, it will likely never be fielded in lieu of a meltagun or flamer.

Rend -1 would be cool. Not sure Id want it on a sergeant (currently) buuuut....Id be more likely to take it!

Voldrak wrote:
The original sister box set used to contain a flamer, a stormbolter and a chainsword / plasma pistol sergeant.

Every veteran collector is going to easilly have 5+ stormbolters lying around given how cheap those boxes were compared to now.

Original box did not have a storm bolter. Storm bolters didn't come out until the 3.5 WH reboot.

I do not have 5+ stormbolters and I am definitely a veteran collector.

The real question: where I can cheaply find an additional 30+ regular sisters so I can play foot sisters in the new edition?

PanzerLeader wrote:
The real question: where I can cheaply find an additional 30+ regular sisters so I can play foot sisters in the new edition?

Haunt ebay and the swap shop.

 pretre wrote:
They are good for making combi-weapons out of.

Exactly this.

Also, with bolters being 30", I wonder if storm bolters will be taht as well, and also gain some other benefit?

 Melissia wrote:

 pretre wrote:
They are good for making combi-weapons out of.

Exactly this.

Also, with bolters being 30", I wonder if storm bolters will be taht as well, and also gain some other benefit?

Boltgun is still 24", Bolt Rifle is 30".

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 pretre wrote:
They are good for making combi-weapons out of.

Exactly this.

Also, with bolters being 30", I wonder if storm bolters will be that as well, and also gain some other benefit?

Boltgun is still 24", Bolt Rifle is 30".

Oh. That's laaaaame. Completely misread it and got my hopes up.

 Melissia wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 pretre wrote:
They are good for making combi-weapons out of.

Exactly this.

Also, with bolters being 30", I wonder if storm bolters will be that as well, and also gain some other benefit?

Boltgun is still 24", Bolt Rifle is 30".

Oh. That's laaaaame. Completely misread it and got my hopes up.

Maybe the Sororitas will get issued with Bolt Rifles and new armour for thier new plastic models

That'd be a good way to get people to rebuy sisters. Mark X armor and bolt rifles.

Yeah, that'd be interesting at least.

I've been so ally heavy the last couple years it's going to be weird to play straight sisters again. There's still so many questions. It also looks like if we have any ways to deepstrike, we can never do so within melta range.

If you use a multi melta you can. Just take the -1 BS penalty

Sisters aren't super big on DS in the past.

While I think that 'straight' armies will be viable, I don't think you'll actually see all that many. IT will depend on how useful command points end up being, but Imperial armies made from 2-3 sets of keywords will probably stay the norm.

I just want to play Celestine and my Kytan Demon Engine in the same army... is that unreasonable?

I don't think I've had a list that didn't have an Inquisitor in it since the Inquisiton codex came out back in 6th. I don't really expect this to change.

I've found that running a bunch of detachments isn't all that efficient, though. The only thing I've really been able to do and be effective is to have an allied Armoured Battlegroup, which sticks on well to any list and generally pulls its weight okay, and that's because the things I'm taking it for are in the HQ and Troop slots.

 deviantduck wrote:
I just want to play Celestine and my Kytan Demon Engine in the same army... is that unreasonable?

Not if she kills it first turn.

Let's play the "Guess Celestine's new statistics" game for 8th edition.

Who wants to go first?

Oh... Oh!!!

Solo Celestine
M 12
WS 2+
BS 3+
S 5
T 5
W 8
A 5
LD 10
SV 2+, and a save that can never be reduced past a 4+

So, not as good as Robbie G in the Blastic Skills, Strength and Toughness, and Number of wounds. She can move faster because she drinks Red Bull (has wings).


I wonder if she will have her body guards in unit... that would certainly be possible in the new rules, though she wouldn't get the protection against shooting that a single character would have if she was a part of a unit. If that is the case, I don't think that we will ever see mixed armor saves or mixed toughness in the same unit again (to be honest, it was quite the pain for wound allocation... a complication that can easily be dropped.
If she does have her body guards... then their stats are in the parenthesis.

Team Celestine
M 12
WS 2+ (3+)
BS 3+ (3+)
S 5 (3)
T 3 (3)
W 8 (2)
A 5 (2)
LD 10 (10)
SV 3+ (3+) With another save that cannot be reduced below 4+

The Armor of Saint Katherine confers a 2+, but otherwise, that looks pretty good.

I doubt she'll have 8 wounds base though, considering she comes back from the dead, and other infantry multiwound people don't look like they're going up drastically in wounds.

The Armor of Saint Katherine might not be a 2+ save in the next book. It could be something else.
You are right, probably a bit lower on the wounds total.