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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 20:10:44
Subject: Why always red?
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Fireknife Shas'el
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So I was looking at the new admech models and drooling, but then something stuck me. They are all painted red. Is that a rule they have? Can they do different colors?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 20:14:05
Subject: Why always red?
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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It's up to you what color they are.
I don't know much about AdMech, but do what you want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 20:16:48
Subject: Why always red?
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Fireknife Shas'el
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KaptinBadrukk wrote:It's up to you what color they are.
I don't know much about AdMech, but do what you want.
Well there is that, but I am wondering if there is a fluffy reason they are always red.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 20:20:27
Subject: Why always red?
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Master Shaper
Gargant Hunting
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Red for Mars, methinks. I don't know much at all about the admech, regrettably, but that would make the most sense.
Of course, you don't need to throw red on your guys, but I believe they have red on them to show them paying tribute to Mars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 20:21:05
Subject: Why always red?
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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nomotog wrote: KaptinBadrukk wrote:It's up to you what color they are.
I don't know much about AdMech, but do what you want.
Well there is that, but I am wondering if there is a fluffy reason they are always red.
I think the red has something to do with respecting the Red Planet (Mars) I mean almost any other colors could look great on AdMech, since they are mainly silver/iron underneath. Paint your AdMech cloaks purple.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 20:34:09
Subject: Why always red?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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nomotog wrote:So I was looking at the new admech models and drooling, but then something stuck me. They are all painted red. Is that a rule they have? Can they do different colors?
IIRC there is old fluff about white robes as well............
There are many Forge Worlds - they may use different colours at your whim.
If it looks good - do it..........no one can tell you how to paint your models - the most they legitamtely do is express surprise ..............
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 20:43:28
Subject: Why always red?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Red is the Machine Spirit's favorite color. If you're a tech-adept and you don't have at least a little red on you, the spirits get huffy.
It's why Enginseers and Techmarines have red shoulder pads at the very least
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 20:48:30
Subject: Why always red?
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Raging Ravener
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Its to make them go faster, see necron for comparison of red vs non-red robots
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 21:17:32
Subject: Re:Why always red?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The admech books contain different paint schemes as examples for various forgeworlds and there is nothing stopping you from making up your own and picking custom colors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 21:21:21
Subject: Why always red?
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Requiet wrote:Its to make them go faster, see necron for comparison of red vs non-red robots
Perfect explanation
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 21:48:13
Subject: Why always red?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Every Forgeworld has its own colour scheme, just like Space Marine Chapters, Eldar Craftworlds, Tau Septs, Tyranid Hivefleets etc. The colour scheme on the GW site is the one of Mars, which is red. A lot of other Forgeworlds also like red. Why red you ask? There are several factors contributing to the overall redness of the AdMech. Apart from being the colour of the Red Planet, red is also the favourite colour of the AdMech and the Omnissiah in general. Red colour also gives a strategic advantage. Apart from being more intimidating, red objects are also significantly faster than non-red objects. It is known.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 10:44:37
Subject: Why always red?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Look at how actual dyes/pigments are made.
The closest and possibly only resource for early Mars settlers is likely to be a red colour.
Any other colours will have to be imported thus more expensive and reserved for higher ranks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 11:28:46
Subject: Why always red?
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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The Skitarii Codex covers many different Forgeworlds and a few do not have red robes:
Ryza - Orange
Metalica - White
Stygies VIII - Black
Agripinaa- Dark Grey
Otherwise, as others have said, red is dominant in the Adeptus Mechanicas because they originate from the 'red planet', Mars, and the robes resemble those worn by early nomads on the planet who would have used them for camouflage/dyed them with local pigments.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 12:13:09
Subject: Why always red?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Crevab wrote:Red is the Machine Spirit's favorite color. If you're a tech-adept and you don't have at least a little red on you, the spirits get huffy.
It's why Enginseers and Techmarines have red shoulder pads at the very least
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Ha ha, what a load of  They wear red to show their duel allegiance to the mechanicus, and to remind themselves not to share secrets.
Mars is the original forgeworld, Martian admech wear red out of respect for the homeworld. Other forgeworlds can wear whatever they want, but often include some red, showing reverence back to Mars and therefore the Omnissiah. However, it isn't mandatory. The Martian colour scheme are just the poster boys for the boxed models, same as ult
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 17:14:07
Subject: Re:Why always red?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Red is the color of Old Blood. Or it goes something like that. Its an omage to the biological forms they have left behind as well as the Red Planet, Mars.
Mechanicus and Skitarii forces can be whatever color you want. Some are bright orange, some are black, some have small bits of red on them, some don't have Red on their uniform or paint at all.
Like pretty much any army. You can make them whatever color you want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 18:24:29
Subject: Why always red?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm sorry you don't like the fluff, but it is what it is
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 22:19:55
Subject: Why always red?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Crevab wrote:
I'm sorry you don't like the fluff, but it is what it is
I've been playing since RT and never heard anything about the machine spirit's favourite colour. Apologies if that is right and I've missed it, where would I find that reference?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 22:32:53
Subject: Why always red?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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I did my rangers in cammoflage
Yeah, bright red snipers. Bit too far fetched.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 23:44:55
Subject: Why always red?
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Bottle wrote:The Skitarii Codex covers many different Forgeworlds and a few do not have red robes:
Ryza - Orange
Metalica - White
Stygies VIII - Black
Agripinaa- Dark Grey
Otherwise, as others have said, red is dominant in the Adeptus Mechanicas because they originate from the 'red planet', Mars, and the robes resemble those worn by early nomads on the planet who would have used them for camouflage/dyed them with local pigments.
This.  Red is dedicated to Mars.
And Cult Mechanicus shows some schemes for their cohort cybernetica ( page 40/41 ) in: red, green , blue , yellow , grey , black ,white ,brown...etc Single color, 2 color , 3 colors.
Given the IoM has thousands of Forgeworlds and we "know" about a handful, there is always a place for your own interpretation of a eye-pleasing color-scheme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/04 02:07:09
Subject: Re:Why always red?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Red is the official color of Mars, the holy ground of the Cult Mechanicus. Each Forge World does have its own heraldry so feel free to make up your own color scheme, but to be perfectly fluffy there will usually be some red somewhere as tribute.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/04 18:37:32
Subject: Why always red?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Crevab wrote:Red is the Machine Spirit's favorite color. If you're a tech-adept and you don't have at least a little red on you, the spirits get huffy.
It's why Enginseers and Techmarines have red shoulder pads at the very least
cuz red machine spirits go fasta!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/04 19:24:27
Subject: Why always red?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The codex covers some other colours than red.
Something I picked up on my travels - black robes are worn to mourn the death of a forge world, and cream are occasionally worn during unspecified ceremonies.
Other than that, there's little significant meaning to non-red colours.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/04 23:23:15
Subject: Re:Why always red?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Originally, The Empire of the Adeptus Mechanicus kept red as its color in order to honor the red planet (Mars), honour their ancestors (red was the original color of the Martian societies), honour their biological machines (red is the color of human blood), and honor iron (red for rusty iron, which is something that is seen in virtually every book featuring the AdMech). Then, they decided to make it so that you can make your own special snowflake Forge Worlds, so they added in some crap about differently colored Skitarii from different Forge Worlds in the Codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/05 06:10:25
Subject: Re:Why always red?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Red is the holy colour of mars, and thus anything mechanicus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/06 15:10:37
Subject: Re:Why always red?
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Fixture of Dakka
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dusara217 wrote:Originally, The Empire of the Adeptus Mechanicus kept red as its color in order to honor the red planet (Mars), honour their ancestors (red was the original color of the Martian societies), honour their biological machines (red is the color of human blood), and honor iron (red for rusty iron, which is something that is seen in virtually every book featuring the AdMech). Then, they decided to make it so that you can make your own special snowflake Forge Worlds, so they added in some crap about differently colored Skitarii from different Forge Worlds in the Codex.
Originally, the Adeptus Mechanicus' colour whas white. The red, I think, comes from a John Blanche painting:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-l_YFFY_QysI/UWawXilZD5I/AAAAAAAABBM/sdpykVGu6Wc/s1600/tumblr_miv1nhH9Bq1qhslato1_1280.jpg
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/06 15:20:35
Subject: Why always red?
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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jhe90 wrote:I did my rangers in cammoflage
Yeah, bright red snipers. Bit too far fetched.
Unless the environment you tend to snipe from is predominantly red earth/sand.
Not much green foliage where they come from even if it started that way.
I figure a rust colour on any forge world is a safe bet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/06 15:59:58
Subject: Why always red?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Well I'm thoroughly disappointed this is not a discussion about GW's. "Red period" in the early to mid nineties.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/06 17:42:14
Subject: Why always red?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Grimtuff wrote:Well I'm thoroughly disappointed this is not a discussion about GW's. "Red period" in the early to mid nineties.
Do you mean the period that seemed to end when Mike McVey left the eavy metal team?
Jokes aside, really loved his style.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/06 21:42:57
Subject: Why always red?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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JamesY wrote: Grimtuff wrote:Well I'm thoroughly disappointed this is not a discussion about GW's. "Red period" in the early to mid nineties.
Do you mean the period that seemed to end when Mike McVey left the eavy metal team?
Jokes aside, really loved his style.
Indeed.
Also, I just noticed this was in 40k background. Thought this thread was in general discussion when I posted earlier from my phone. Would've made my assumption make more sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/06 22:12:19
Subject: Re:Why always red?
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Hallowed Canoness
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AndrewGPaul wrote: dusara217 wrote:Originally, The Empire of the Adeptus Mechanicus kept red as its color in order to honor the red planet (Mars), honour their ancestors (red was the original color of the Martian societies), honour their biological machines (red is the color of human blood), and honor iron (red for rusty iron, which is something that is seen in virtually every book featuring the AdMech). Then, they decided to make it so that you can make your own special snowflake Forge Worlds, so they added in some crap about differently colored Skitarii from different Forge Worlds in the Codex.
Originally, the Adeptus Mechanicus' colour whas white. The red, I think, comes from a John Blanche painting:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-l_YFFY_QysI/UWawXilZD5I/AAAAAAAABBM/sdpykVGu6Wc/s1600/tumblr_miv1nhH9Bq1qhslato1_1280.jpg
The only place I've ever seen the AdMech described as having white robes was in a Cain novel, and I've been around since second edition.
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