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Been invited to attend a tournament in Feb. Not overly sure on the meta but this is within the rules for last year. (This years isn't quite out yet). Let me know what you think. Advice is welcome.

Primary Detachment - Imperial Knights household detachment.

Knight Crusader - Rapid fire battle cannon, melta gun - Warlord
Knight Errant - No upgrades
Knight Warden - Melta gun

Secondary detachment - CAD - Craftworld Eldar

HQ - Warlock, Jetbike, spear
HQ - Warlock, Jetbike

Troops - 3x Jetbikes, 3x scatter lasers
Troops - 3x Jerbikes, 3x scatter lasers

Lord of War - Wraithknight, stock.

Add that to the household detachment for 1747 points. Fast objective secured with decent output. Warlock try for protect/jinx but only bothered about conceal for 2+ cover objective grabbers. Wraithknight wrecks ranged face.

Edited to include eldar instead of grey Knights.

AdLance would suit your need better.

GK is not the best ally for IK. But I guess you can do something if you are comfy with it.

Doesn't ad lance restrict me to errants and Paladins? Unfortunately these are the only Knights I own, and I'm not prepared to buy two more for this tournament.

I know GK aren't the most powerful but they're a good harassment unit deep striking on turn one, or can lend some psychic support.

You don't need harassment or deepstrike. You need scoring and way to beat what kills your IK. That is closs- range antitank obviously.

GK are bad at scripting and protecting things. They are offensively kitted army.

Yeah, I see your point. The Knights are in a household detachment so they have objective secured which helps. I can add in a CAD of eldar jet bikes....

can you make the knights invisible? if yes then try triptrate lance.

I can if the psyker is a battle brother. Considered trying to squeeze a librarius conclave in with tiggy for almost guaranteed invis.

But I've come up with another option. Delete the GK knight portion, instead take this

CAD - Craftworld Eldar

HQ - Warlock, Jetbike, spear
HQ - Warlock, Jetbike

Troops - 3x Jetbikes, 3x scatter lasers
Troops - 3x Jerbikes, 3x scatter lasers

Lord of War - Wraithknight, stock.

Add that to the household detachment for 1747 points. Fast objective secured with decent output. Warlock try for protect/jinx but only bothered about conceal for 2+ cover objective grabbers. Wraithknight wrecks ranged face.

Play tested the list against an average list this evening. It was incredibly strong.

Dropping the ~115 points in Eldar HQ Warlocks seems like a poor help. I understand you're aiming for 2+ Objective pickup, but all I see is lost damage potential in having 3 more Scat Pack and a foot Warlock to fit the detachment.

It's definitely something else I considered to be honest. In the play test I had last night however, I used reveal more than conceal. Dropping cover saves from things with 3+ armour and then opening up with the Knights was a much better combination than I had thought. But it's something I'm willing to play test.

Do you really want that WK on your Eldar detachment? IK fill same roles but better and having more reliable Scatbiking stuff and psypowers can help you very much.

 cabal_therapy wrote:
Do you really want that WK on your Eldar detachment? IK fill same roles but better and having more reliable Scatbiking stuff and psypowers can help you very much.

Are you kidding me? I appreciate all fredback, but saying an imperial knight can do what a Wraithknight can do but better is simply laughable. A Wraithknight will put perform an imperial knight almost every time. They're more mobile, able to make better use of cover, can carry ranged D, aren't restricted to 45 degree firing arcs, can have an invulnerable that counts for all facings, have feel no pain, have higher base attacks AND at a higher initiative. And all that for 75 points cheaper than the cheapest useful imperial knight. (I don't count the gallant, he's a waste of time.) if I owned 4 wraithknights, I'd field them instead.

They both can stomp. Both have melee D. Yeah, WK has arguably better protection - but IK shoots better. A trade worth its salt.

I'm not kidding you. That's my point of view.

From tactical perspective you don't need more huge battle robots killing stuff - you got it. What you need is a way to score objectives, deny the witch and kill small squads not worth a pie plate - that's more scatter bikes.

 cabal_therapy wrote:
They both can stomp. Both have melee D. Yeah, WK has arguably better protection - but IK shoots better. A trade worth its salt.

I'm not kidding you. That's my point of view.

From tactical perspective you don't need more huge battle robots killing stuff - you got it. What you need is a way to score objectives, deny the witch and kill small squads not worth a pie plate - that's more scatter bikes.

I dont agree with you. the iK is not shooty enough. 375Pts for 12 shots at S6 ap3 remding is not great. even 2 large blast s8 ap3 is decent compared to scat bikes putting out 24 s6 shots at 1/3 the cost. Crusader is a huge waste of points. Wraith knights are just better even if they shoot less than IKs.

Ok, in which case I see your point there.....

Ok how about something like this...

CAD - Eldar Craftworlds

HQ - Farseer, bike, spear, spirit stone
HQ - 2x Warlocks (Farseer goes here)

Troops - 3x bikes, 3x scatter lasers
Troops - 3x bikes, 3x scatter lasers
Troops - 3x bikes, 3x scatter lasers

Fast attack - Crimson Hunter Exarch, bright lances

Lord of war - Wraithknight, Ghost glaive and scatter shield

Imperial knight Oathsworn Detachment

Imperial knight Crusader, Rapid fire battle cannon, melta gun
Imperial knight Warden, melta gun (Can swap this one for an errant for equal points.

Any better or worse? I lose a super heavy but gain 3 more bikes, a farseer and a flier.